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Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by reocha »

creshal wrote: post #56

> More than just a refreshed set of graphics, Supernova introduces beautiful icons with a more consistent visual style unique to Thunderbird. Our new designs remain sharp and pixel-perfect at any density setting. Translation: We break with the established platform look&feel to follow the brave trend of replacing easily identified colourful icons with vague monochrome silhouettes.

Pointless complaint with no actual observation of the new look and feel, Thunderbird is still just as colorful as it was before. The focus here seems to be on making the icons more consistent across the application as opposed to some of the issues they had before.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by Jaxan »

creshal wrote: post #56

> More than just a refreshed set of graphics, Supernova introduces beautiful icons with a more consistent visual style unique to Thunderbird. Our new designs remain sharp and pixel-perfect at any density setting. Translation: We break with the established platform look&feel to follow the brave trend of replacing easily identified colourful icons with vague monochrome silhouettes.

It seems they kept the colouring the same. Coloured icons remain coloured and monochrome ones stay monochrome.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by johnchristopher »

At last !:

> Card View emulates a mobile interface list with multi-line support, offering a more comfortable appearance to reduce cognitive burden.

Took them long enough.

And they said it couldn't be done, sheesh.

Outlook 2003 had that for... 20 years.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by kekebo »

Anyone have an opinion on how Betterbird[0] compares to Thunderbird? I've installed it recently to circumvent a recent design change in Thunderbird but have a hard time assessing whether it's a worthwhile long-term alternative and a project worthy of support.

[0] https://www.betterbird.eu/

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by berkes »

diarrhea wrote: post #57

Putting the search bar front-and-center in both the application and this announcement, I hope the backend implementation is now able to keep up? The one use case I switch to my mail provider's webmail UI for is search. I mentally sigh a little bit each time I realise I have to search through my email. Thunderbird's search has been among the worst I have ever come across, sadly. Functional search would be a killer fea…

Yeah. It's been terrible forever. Either returning far too much, far too little, or both.

I've often just resorted to grep on an export of mail directories to find that one email. I even once imported the mails (ugly bash and Ruby hacks) in meilisearch to actually find stuff.

It surprises me that it's possible to have a search experience that's worse than manually grepping through directories.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by nu11ptr »

Out of curiosity, what UI framework is used here? Electron? something else?

EDIT: On 2nd thought I'm thinking this is XUL, Mozilla's sort of electron equivalent for an HTML/CSS UI?

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by reacharavindh »

diarrhea wrote: post #57

Putting the search bar front-and-center in both the application and this announcement, I hope the backend implementation is now able to keep up? The one use case I switch to my mail provider's webmail UI for is search. I mentally sigh a little bit each time I realise I have to search through my email. Thunderbird's search has been among the worst I have ever come across, sadly. Functional search would be a killer fea…

I have always wondered this. When a site like "MAterial for Mkdocs" can implement such a featureful search (with autocomplete, spellcorrect and such) in a browser for a website, how could it be this hard for a desktop application with several orders of magnitude of resources at its disposal?

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by cris-ward »

nik736 wrote: post #16

What happened to the look that was announced? [0] The announcement was way more modern than the screenshot that is shown now. [0]: https://developer.thunderbird.net/planning/roadmap

As a designer + developer, it always frustrates me to see a design not translated into code well. If this is built using css, there really aren't any excuses for not making this look as slick as the visuals. Especially when the design doesn't appear to contain anything which looks especially difficult to recreate.

It's difficult to overemphasise how much this kind of thing gives users of your software confidence. The common assumption is, if it looks good, it works well (and the opposite).

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by cubefox »

nu11ptr wrote: post #66

Out of curiosity, what UI framework is used here? Electron? something else? EDIT: On 2nd thought I'm thinking this is XUL, Mozilla's sort of electron equivalent for an HTML/CSS UI?

They did use XULRunner in the past, but probably something else nowadays.
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