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France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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> #ACAB At least for me, this comment loses its thrust with this hashtag. It takes a potent observation and adds unnecessary partisanship. It's also connected with the mother of all blowback slogans: defund the police.

It’s not our fault you’ve made that slogan a partisan issue.

A real republican would actually hate cops.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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From an opsec standpoint, would leaving the phone in airplane mode and turning off location services effectively block access to the phone? From my understanding airplane mode disables the sim, wifi, gps, and bluetooth entirely, but it's possible to re-enable wifi, gps, and bluetooth. It's something I got into the habit of doing because my phone searching for 4g cellular data ate into my battery.

Not if the phone has been rooted and airplane mode has been tampered with from below.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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Meanwhile China is bad.

I haven't seen "reeducation camps" in the west in a few decades

That is true, luckily. OTOH, to be fair the west has been good at "offshoring" its abuses for quite a few centuries.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> #ACAB At least for me, this comment loses its thrust with this hashtag. It takes a potent observation and adds unnecessary partisanship. It's also connected with the mother of all blowback slogans: defund the police.

It’s not our fault you’ve made that slogan a partisan issue. A real republican would actually hate cops.

A real Republican would bomb Protestant churches and other non-sequiturs. No true Scotsman would ever do that either

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> #ACAB At least for me, this comment loses its thrust with this hashtag. It takes a potent observation and adds unnecessary partisanship. It's also connected with the mother of all blowback slogans: defund the police.

My experience with the police has been universally terrible. They think they are above the law and trusting them to do the right thing or “tell the truth and you’ll be fine” is extremely bad advice. Get a lawyer and be very careful around these people is my more nuanced take on them. Edit: I commented before you made your answer more nuanced so I’ve changed mine too.

The vast majority of interactions with police are peaceful and relatively mundane. Your view of police seems to be only informed by videos you see online.

The only interactions you see with police online are either extremely wholesome or extremely hostile. The mundane and boring interactions with police don't get seen, because they are boring and not at all noteworthy because it is standard.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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what tech does this even use? Do they mean using Pegasus or similar malware that the govt has to first get onto the suspect's devices, or is this via Google/Apple or the device manufacturers that makes 'remotely and secretly activating a microphone' even possible?

Is this even possible on an iPhone?

My memory may be failing me or confusing things so please correct me, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that the baseband lives segregated (with only a narrow communication cannel, kinda as if it were a remote machine) from the remainder of the hardware, so while it could be made to run stuff itself it has no way to physically access to main cpu, ram, mic, nor cams (barring, of course, any vulnerability on the comm channel that would land an exploit in the main OS+hardware).

GPS is another matter, but then again it's baseband so it gotta communicates with towers, so that's a done deal already that does not even require baseband access.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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Saying all cops are anything is exactly the same thing as saying all blacks are thieves, all Jews are greedy, or any of the other blanket statements that can never apply to any large group of people. It’s disgusting.

what's disgusting is to equate a group of professional thugs to historically marginalised race groups

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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From the French Revolution, to this. How far the mighty have fallen.

I mean, the French Revolution was very-shortly-followed by the Terror, so we can hardly present this as a simple slow decline from a golden age.

And very shortly thereafter, an emperor :-)
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