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Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

f311a wrote: post #23

I’m so tired of this kind of marketing. Meanwhile, if your SSD dies on m1 macbook, the laptop becomes unrepairable. If Apple would care about ecology, they would at least allow to resolder it.

Sure. Same situation if your CPU, Chipset, PMIC, or any random capacitor or resistor dies on any other laptop. SSDs have achieved the point where a replacement from a failure is almost unheard of compared to other components failing first. Nobody complains their laptop CPU isn't socketed.

It's definitely a frustration for upgrades - but not really reliability anymore. When's the last time someone complained their phone's SSD died?

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

secretsatan wrote: post #21
honeybadger1 wrote: post #6

Toggle on virtue signaling.

So they shouldn’t do this?

I never understood the use of the phrase "virtue signalling" until I realised that the people using it literally don't believe that the problem and/or the solution exists.

So, imagine that you didn't believe that the earth was warming, or that humans contributed to that, or that we can't do anything to change that if it was the case, etc. etc.

Clearly anyone bringing attention to these so-called facts or proposing or implementing alleged solutions to the non-existing problem isn't actually achieving anything. They're just signalling virtue to others in their confused tribe.

Same with racism, sexism and any other fictitious problems that don't exist and that therefore don't have solutions. You can't fix problems that don't exist hence pretending the problem or a solution to it exists is just "virtue signalling".

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by lxchase »

amoshebb wrote: post #15

Appliances that actually use energy should have this. I'd love to be able to put a wet load of laundry into my drier and press "make sure it's dry by tomorrow morning".

I hope it is not just me (please someone tell me), but I find that if you let a load of wet laundry sit overnight, it starts to stink?

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by Toutouxc »

alpineidyll3 wrote: post #32
honeybadger1 wrote: post #6

Toggle on virtue signaling.

More likely a play to reduce battery lifetime by increasing incidence of full discharge... Note a year ago they settled a lawsuit about throttling CPUs with updates on older iphones for the same purpose. The environmental footprint of an iphone is significant no matter what offset fake math they employ....

They were throttling CPUs to literally extend the life of the phone. They did it so your phone could still run reliably with an old battery which would otherwise need to be replaced.

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by Toutouxc »

On one hand, simply going back from MagSafe to wired charging would probably save significantly more CO2 (wireless charging is inefficient as hell), but my guess is that this is mostly a way to draw attention to the problem. To subtly inject thinking about how we generate and use electricity into something as mundane and common as charging a phone. Which is cool by me.

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by mock-possum »

amoshebb wrote: post #15

Appliances that actually use energy should have this. I'd love to be able to put a wet load of laundry into my drier and press "make sure it's dry by tomorrow morning".

How connected to the IoT are you willing to go to access that functionality though - now your drier requires wifi access, and cynically, you know it’s not going to just use that to access local peak load times.

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by thaumasiotes »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #57
thaumasiotes wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But lots of people have deep refrigerators, which cause exactly the same usability problem ("most of the stuff in the fridge cannot be accessed, because the stuff between it and the door blocks it").

It doesn't really though, I've lived with a chest refrigerator so I know this experience. With a deep fridge you can push things to the side, reach over them, etc... you can still kind of see where everything is if you move your head to look around other items. With a chest fridge you stack everything. This can: * more completely obscure other items * squish items * require you to move items to find what you want (i.…

You're right that several problems are worse in the chest fridge. Squishing and cleaning are real differences. The shelving in the door is very useful... but it's useful because the door is shallow. A one-item-deep door can't block access to the rear layers of stuff that it doesn't contain.

A deep vertical refrigerator already completely obscures most of its contents, requires you to move items in order to get what you want, and contains drawers where the contents are not only stacked but completely invisible until you specifically open the drawer to search inside.

Your reference to moving items in the fridge from one shelf to another shelf (temporarily) in order to clean up a spill tells me that you're not engaging in typical deep refrigerator use. The other shelf is already full; to clean up a spill, you need to pull the things that were in the dirty area out of the fridge.

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by WirelessGigabit »

amoshebb wrote: post #15

Appliances that actually use energy should have this. I'd love to be able to put a wet load of laundry into my drier and press "make sure it's dry by tomorrow morning".

I schedule loads to be ready when I wake up. I hang them outside and 1.5 hours later they're dry.

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by micromacrofoot »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #67
micromacrofoot wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't really though, I've lived with a chest refrigerator so I know this experience. With a deep fridge you can push things to the side, reach over them, etc... you can still kind of see where everything is if you move your head to look around other items. With a chest fridge you stack everything. This can: * more completely obscure other items * squish items * require you to move items to find what you want (i.…

You're right that several problems are worse in the chest fridge. Squishing and cleaning are real differences. The shelving in the door is very useful... but it's useful because the door is shallow. A one-item-deep door can't block access to the rear layers of stuff that it doesn't contain. A deep vertical refrigerator already completely obscures most of its contents, requires you to move items in order to get what y…

Completely possible I just dont keep my fridge as full as some people! but I do not miss the chest fridge despite its glorious efficiency

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by rolldat777 »

JoshTko wrote: post #14
honeybadger1 wrote: post #6

Toggle on virtue signaling.

At Apple's scale the effort building this feature is certainly worth the co2 impact. edit: impact would be approx. the same as powering 300k US homes to only use clean energy.

I was surprised, but this calculation checks out. Wild. This really points to the scale of influence that large companies have, especially considering this is < 0.1% of typical household electricity consumption. Consider then that household electricity consumption is not the complete picture - add in cars (both ICE and electric being ~ICE/4), food production, etc, and you see both how much energy we use and how much single entities influence this amount. According to the internet, google data centers are ~1 million households (I saw 15TWh/yr), so 1% efficiency improvements are a small town worth of electricity. At they same time, they claim 3m household savings due to Nest, wow.
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