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Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

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post #46

YC could offer this as a paid service. For $100 million, you can boost a post with fake upvotes. (Hey, it could be the big break that turns into a $1B startup. And the cost to provide this service is high, since YC thrives on reputation, which this erodes.) Now that it has a price tag, sue others for theft of service.

I'm not convinced that YC doesn't put their thumb on the scale for YC companies, but whatever the effect is, it's definitely subtle.

Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

#63
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing special, just was interesting to see. I wonder who the clientele is...

Startup VC funded founders who have no clue about community, marketing, or PR, and thus externalise their goals to dubious companies willing to make whatever necessary to reach the goal. The real hack is knowing the audience hn is comprised of, and creating great content for that audience. There's several great startups doing just that and very finely so too in HN

Votes and fake engagement keeps your post on front page longer, which spurs more organic interaction.

This has been marketing 101 for at least a decade. Reddit, hacker news, any site with user content is bought and paid for.

Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

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Site admins should "buy upvotes" a few times, at different hours of the day, and aggressively ban every account that's a repeat offender. But, really, upvotes are always easily exploitable and often lead to a sort of herd mentality among commenters. This is why Reddit is the definition of "echo chamber." HN is much better, but it would still be improved if upvotes and downvotes were done away with entirely.

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Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

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Is buying upvotes really effective in the long run? It might give you some short-term gains sure, but it could even backfire as people start to notice that your posts are getting artificially high ratings and lose trust in your content.

Plus, if you're trying to build a genuine community around your product or idea, you need their honest feedback and support to truly understand what they want and how to improve. So, I'd say that buying upvotes is not a sustainable strategy and could actually harm your chances of success on the road to PMF.

Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

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post #43

I ve had a few things hit the homepage here over the years. Did not mean much beyond the good link juice. Did it work out differently for people here?

When my newsletter hits the front page I usually get a handful of signups. When our product page hits the front page it's usually good for a few dozen signups (of a fairly niche product).

A lot of link aggregators / newsletters source from HN as well, so making the front page usually means a trickling of other mentions over the following ~week. Anecdotally these tend to produce less traffic, but have a higher conversion rate.

Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

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I'm going to use this as an excuse to springboard off on a tangent I've been thinking a lot about.

I think my social media story might be pretty common. Early on, all my social graphs across various platforms were well managed mappings of my real life friends. Today, all my social graphs are a mess. Platforms seem to push to make it easier to discover and find new friends. I want the opposite of this.

I want to have to go through a series of steps in real life in order to add someone to my contact list. I want to classify this friend in some way that acknowledges what the level of trust is. Is this person a casual acquaintance or a trusted family member?

When content is "shared" and I'm receiving it in my news feed, I don't just want to see how many "likes" it has. I want to heuristics on how my personal network responded to that piece of content. And, of course, I want to own that data and I want my hardware to crunch the data. So this could be built in a decentralized way.

This paradigm is far less susceptible to Sybil attacks, such as paid upvotes on a sites like Hacker News. It would isolate us, in a way, from the zeitgeist. But it would connect us more closely with our real world social network.

Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

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If you troll around in "New" for long enough you'll see threads where some version of this happens - though it's impossible to tell of they are bought upvotes, fake accounts made by the poster, or just friends that were asked to come and post. You'll see some mediocre SaaS thing that's posted here and on Product hunt and a bunch of comments from new users like "Wow so exciting, great job!". They usually get flagged q…

Maybe this very thread is a SaaS ad with bought upvotes?

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Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

#70

Did anyone think this wasn't happening?

Stuff of varying quality lands here and sometimes more than once but does not take off. I have a soft spot for show HN stuff mostly because it reminds me how little I do outside of my work.

I think I give people here a lot more of the benefit of doubt than most other places.

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