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Kagi raises $670k

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Re: Kagi raises $670k

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For anyone else who, like me, was confused by the name: > Are you affiliated with the legendary Kagi shareware platform? > No. That Kagi went bankrupt in an unfortunate turn of events. We liked the name and acquired it when we got the chance.

Cagey...

I dunno, names are scarce and if a project fails then I don't see too much wrong with reuse of the name.

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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Neeva - cofounded by an ex-Google exec also provided a paid search experience with similar features. They have since shut down and in their blog post pointed out that the issue they faced was not convincing people that they should pay for search but rather the fact that distribution of their service is difficult (i.e. being browser defaults, at work, on people's phones). What's Kagi doing differently to be able to su…

They reach the top of HN front page. Because I've never heard of Neeva before, but I'm a Kagi paying user.

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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> business model Welp. Until now their search and their browser were supported by me and people like me, but now they are supported by investors who will want ROI. As history shows, the best way to get ROI is to become free and mine user data. Congrats to the team on paycheck though!

The funding is from investors who are Kagi users. You could sign up to be a part of their next funding round if you want.

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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I find the data on their pricing interesting. It says 300 searches per month is enough for 99% of users. I'm pretty sure I use more than 300 searches every day. Edit: 300/day is too much, apparently I use about 100/day according to my search history.

Agreed - That 99% of users they're talking about aren't going to be the ones looking for an alternative search engine like this

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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"Kagi is building a novel ad-free, paid search engine and a powerful web browser as a part of our mission to humanize the web." With 670K? Cuil went through about $30 million to develop a standalone search engine. And that was fifteen years ago, when search was simpler. There may be a market for a search engine company that profitably runs a low-cost operation with very few ads and makes real efforts to keep out spam…

Perhaps the business is already sustainable and that $670k will just let them hire an additional person to speed things up a bit?

There's a lot of wasted effort in this industry. Slack has 1500+ employees just to make a chat app. Granted, it's a damn good chat app, but Mozilla is maintaining a browser with half as many people, with not everyone focused on Firefox at that.

My friend is now in a project where he billed for three weeks until all the issues with his dev account were sorted out. It remains unclear when he will be able to start actually working.

I spent two years building a web app + gRPC server that perhaps could have been just the latter.

I could go on. Point is, you can blow through $30mln easily but that doesn't mean you have to.

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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How do you pronounce this? Is it a soft ? Whenever I see Kagi on HN I smile, because my daughter has a soft toy (a sea horse) that she has named Kagi (she pronounces it kha-gee, with a hard g). Good luck!

I pronounce it like her, which is unfortunate because in Italian "KA-ghee" (written caghi) is the verb "you shit".

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cagey...

I dunno, names are scarce and if a project fails then I don't see too much wrong with reuse of the name.

In territories where small enterprises are numerous you can count n "Technodata" and m "Smith and sons" per square kilometer.

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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Neeva - cofounded by an ex-Google exec also provided a paid search experience with similar features. They have since shut down and in their blog post pointed out that the issue they faced was not convincing people that they should pay for search but rather the fact that distribution of their service is difficult (i.e. being browser defaults, at work, on people's phones). What's Kagi doing differently to be able to su…

I didn't realise Neeva had shut down. I tried it for about a week, but stopped using it because it wasn't as snappy as Google. In fact, I always seem to return to Google from every other search engine I try because of its snappiness — decades of tuning seems to have paid off.

Re: Kagi raises $670k

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I had to read the headline twice. At first I read it as $670 million, and I was very sad. That’s “VCs gonna enshittify it in 3 years” money. But then I saw the “K” and grinned. This is proper bootstrap money, and makes me hopeful that Kagi will stay close to its original mission. Congrats. I am really pulling for you, Vlad.

and it seems like many actual users of Kagi (and Orion?) have contributed, so this isn't a (completely) a "big VC firm will enshitify this". This gives me hope. I wish I would qualify to invest in things like this...
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