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I love the project and want to contribute somehow, but have limited time. What would be most helpful?
It depends on what you enjoy doing, and how much time you really have. Good bug reports & reduced test cases are always amazingly valuable. Perhaps you have a home page of your own? You can open it in Ladybird and see if you hit some problems. Maybe we throw a surprising JavaScript exception. Maybe our CSS layout isn't quite right. If you can then reduce the problem to a minimal HTML/CSS/JS example, that's often enou…
Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor
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Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor
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It's sort of hard to take Firefox serious as a competitor to Chrome when their main source of income seems to be Google. They're ostensibly kept on a leash, permitted to exist because it's convenient for Google to have token competition from an anti-trust perspective, but it's sure as hell not real competition.
> It's sort of hard to take Firefox serious as a competitor to Chrome when their main source of income seems to be Google. Which is exactly why I don't understand that not more organisations sponsor Mozilla.
Consider this: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/
Even looking past how little it's actually saying, there are so many contradictions.
> Individuals’ security and privacy on the internet are fundamental and must not be treated as optional.
> Individuals must have the ability to shape the internet and their own experiences on it.
And yet...
* It's damn near impossible to disable telemetry in Firefox. It's very clear they're fighting to prevent you from doing this, as evidenced by the fact that there are options that sort of half-disable telemetry, but not all of it. Fully disabling telemetry requires navigating a minefield of dark patterns and obscure configuration dialogues. [1]
* Firefox will use said connections to, without asking let alone telling you, change feature flags in the software you've installed on your computer, or reset configuration options. [2]
* Firefox forces ads and third party integrations like Pocket onto its users. Time and time again. No respect for consent or user preferences. [3]
It's abundantly clear that privacy and user choice only matters to Mozilla when other organizations are violating them.
[1] https://github.com/K3V1991/Disable-Firefox-Telemetry-and-Dat...
[2] https://mozilla.github.io/normandy/
[3] http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/mozilla-no-respect-for-cons...
Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor
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I don't know... I'm probably a Firefox fanboy, but all this fragmentation in the market of browsers that are not named Chrome isn't doing us much good in beating Chrome. I'm interested in Chrome being beaten, and it still seems Firefox has the best cards (though I don't know _how_). Once there's healthy competition in browser land, let's reconsider fragmenting it ;-)
> and it still seems Firefox has the best cards Not with the current execs
Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor
#64I'm very happy Shopify is doing this, but at the same time I'm mildly confused by the rationale. Is it literally just goodwill, or does Shopify stand to have other potential advantages out of this? Either way, cool.
Now looking into their fulfillment options as the price is pretty good ($5.70 shipped to customer for our product in the USA and around $10.00 international).
I like this company.
Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor
#65I'm very happy Shopify is doing this, but at the same time I'm mildly confused by the rationale. Is it literally just goodwill, or does Shopify stand to have other potential advantages out of this? Either way, cool.
> The web is one of the most amazing and unlikely products of humanity. Free and deeply egalitarian. No app store would allow the web to launch today.
> But it's a gargantuan task to build a new browser from scratch, and there are few people with the range of skills to pull it off. Andreas is one of the few and we are lucky that he can focus on such a task.
> I think of Shopify as one of the 'killer apps' of the open web. Not unlike office to windows, visicalc to the apple2 or half-life to steam. As such, we love to support open source that makes the web better. This is why we support Rails, Remix, and now Ladybird. (and many many others)
Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor
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Could you perhaps write up how this came to be? Did you know anyone there already, or did the contact come through some previous network? Did you put together a pitch deck or did they reach out to you first? The reason I am asking is that I was some years ago I was working on an open source payment gateway for crypto which I was sure would be something interesting for companies like Shopify, and I even posted an "Ask…
Tobi (Shopify CEO) has been supporting my open source work via GitHub Sponsors since early 2022, so I reached out to him and said (very paraphrased) "I'm gonna start pushing harder on Ladybird, would Shopify want to be an official sponsor?"
Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor
#67Please use the money to rewrite it in Jakt ;) Jakt needs a posterchild project to receive the required attention. Besides, it would send not one but two strong messages to Mozilla
Memory safety is absolutely on the long-term roadmap for Ladybird. But Jakt still needs time to mature before making it a dependency :)
(sorry)