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Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by mailund »

silisili wrote: post #45
kevinmchugh wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Baking is very suited to ratios, cooking less so. Bakers commonly talk about percent hydration, which is how much water there is compared to the flour.

My wife makes sourdough, and this frustrated the hell out of me when she started. I asked her what hydration meant, and she said how much water was in it. So of course I told her to do water/water+flour. Nope, apparently it's just water/flour...which doesn't make sense to me, as it allows 'hydration' to go over 100%.

While I agree it is unintuitive, it is super practical when calculating the recipe.

Making a 80% hydration pizza dough? Just measure how much flour you added and multiply by 0.8!

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by tasuki »

soperj wrote: post #44

I actually made a webapp[0] that does a lot of this, but the it's markdown instead of it's own markup language. Benefit of it being online instead of having to run a local server is that you can use other people's recipes (or fork them if you want to alter them). There's also a drag and drop interface for weekly meal planning that makes your grocery list for you instead of having to write them out. [0] - www.reciped.…

I like the look but it's extremely unpolished (yet). Work in progress?

The search is spartan at best and I could not find a list of all the recipes.

Hamburger menu leads to a links page which is empty.

I quickly gave up.

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by suprjami »

duped wrote: post #4

> Slowly add @milk{4%cup} [- TODO change units to litres -], keep mixing No! Handle units! @milk{4%cup} should be trivially convertible to liters and configured by the user. For harder conversions (volume to mass) keeping a list of ingredients and their densities (configurable of course) would be extremely useful. On that subject, being able to specify a recipe in terms of ratios and then automatically convert it to…

You're going to be really sad when you learn there are at least 3 standard definitions of "cup". iirc 225mL 240mL 250mL

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by suprjami »

soperj wrote: post #44

I actually made a webapp[0] that does a lot of this, but the it's markdown instead of it's own markup language. Benefit of it being online instead of having to run a local server is that you can use other people's recipes (or fork them if you want to alter them). There's also a drag and drop interface for weekly meal planning that makes your grocery list for you instead of having to write them out. [0] - www.reciped.…

Seems kinda like a recipe-centric Wikipedia. Interesting idea.

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by suprjami »

xigoi wrote: post #58
tharkun__ wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems like the fallacy of a lot of software development. Make the one time task of writing easier while making the many many multiple more times act of reading/comprehending/using harder. Why?

Why would the reading be harder?

Because every recipe is written with the ingredients first, so you can get the ingredients ready and confirm you have the complete requirements easily.

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by xigoi »

suprjami wrote: post #67
xigoi wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would the reading be harder?

Because every recipe is written with the ingredients first, so you can get the ingredients ready and confirm you have the complete requirements easily.

I presume that with Cooklang, the compiler will automatically extract the list of ingredients and add it to the front.

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by SkeuomorphicBee »

suprjami wrote: post #64
duped wrote: post #4

> Slowly add @milk{4%cup} [- TODO change units to litres -], keep mixing No! Handle units! @milk{4%cup} should be trivially convertible to liters and configured by the user. For harder conversions (volume to mass) keeping a list of ingredients and their densities (configurable of course) would be extremely useful. On that subject, being able to specify a recipe in terms of ratios and then automatically convert it to…

You're going to be really sad when you learn there are at least 3 standard definitions of "cup". iirc 225mL 240mL 250mL

Also 200mL, and if you go into older standards (sometimes needed to read a grandmother's cookbook) it could also mean 180mL, or 175ml.

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by masukomi »

kevinmchugh wrote: post #25
duped wrote: post #4

> Slowly add @milk{4%cup} [- TODO change units to litres -], keep mixing No! Handle units! @milk{4%cup} should be trivially convertible to liters and configured by the user. For harder conversions (volume to mass) keeping a list of ingredients and their densities (configurable of course) would be extremely useful. On that subject, being able to specify a recipe in terms of ratios and then automatically convert it to…

Baking is very suited to ratios, cooking less so. Bakers commonly talk about percent hydration, which is how much water there is compared to the flour.

only if those ratios are defined by weight not volume. a "cup of brown sugar" is a useless measure. For example: I can give you three different cups of brown sugar with the same volume but radically different quantities of sugar in them. "Packed" vs "unpacked" isn't much help because i can do the same thing with both of those too...
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