Christian fundamentalist domestic terrorism is an imminent threat. Whatever this nutter is on about is having a laugh.
Rubio Says He’s Heard Shocking ‘Firsthand’ Accounts of UFOs
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There are only two outcomes from here Why are “David is having a very public mental health crisis.” or “David was mistaken about those programs.” not possibilities?
They might be possibilities. But, the senate intelligence committee recently passed an amendment to the NDAA 2024 just 3 weeks after Grusch went public to include the following: > The new UAP language (found in Section 1104 of the bill) would require "any person currently or formerly under contract with the Federal Government that has in their possession material or information provided by or derived from the Federal…
The United States government also took accusations of satanic sex cults in the US very seriously, funding protection programs, conferences, and research. Turns out that was all the product of flawed investigation, but representatives knew their constituents were concerned and wanted to be seen doing something (or at least wanted to avoid accusations of doing nothing).
I believe a similar explanation could apply here.
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#63When conspiracy theories become mainstream in politics, so does other non-sense like this. My question is then, who's keeping the secrets secret now?
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Well, ok, but she isn't coming out of the UFO closet in quite the same way; where Rubio directly bolsters, Gillibrand has "no idea" of the veracity of Grusch's claims[1] and seems to be more focused on getting oversight on "rogue Special Access Programs": > “We need to just look into whether there are rogue SAP programs that no one is providing oversight for,” says Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a New York Democrat who…
Gillibrand's actions are speaking louder than what she's saying. https://douglasjohnson.ghost.io/senate-intelligence-bill-giv...
Her actions seem exactly consonant with what she was quoted as saying in the article I linked. She seems more interested in the existence of rogue human Special Access Programs than that of space aliens.
Why do you think her actions imply anything else?
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#65If he heard it from someone who saw the UFO, doesn’t that mean the account was second-hand for him? First-hand would be reserved for the person who saw the UFO, wouldn’t it? (Maybe that’s why they put quotes around that term, or maybe I’m wrong, I’m just not familiar with how he’s using the turn of phrase.
You are changing the reference from the whiteness to Rubio. Rubio didn’t claim he saw first hand accounts himself; the ones that talked to him did.
I'm not changing anything, I'm quoting the headline: "Rubio Says He’s Heard Shocking ‘Firsthand’ Account..."
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Was _something_ happening with "Havana Syndrome"? In the end, doesn't seem so. In both cases Occam's Razor points to a bunch of people simply being fooled by their senses and doubling down on that time and time again. Meanwhile we'll waste a whole bunch of money chasing phantoms.
The Havana syndrome stuff is still highly classified. From what I’ve heard, there’s something going on there.
That's the problem with the Havana Syndrome -- it's all "from what I've heard", AKA hearsay.
There is simply no scientifically credible evidence of any malfeasance. The fact that the government agencies have not come out outright and said as much, can be easily explained by the fact that they have nothing to gain by debunking it.
You can rest assured that there are no longer any CIA agents assigned to investigating the Havana events, because they have long ago concluded that there is no substance to the story. They'll never make a press release about such a non-event.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not trying to explain why he would lie to congress or why senators do things. I was just giving other options that I think are more likely than the dichotomy that you laid out. If I'm honest your dichotomy reminds me of some evangelists who are like 'either this guy was literally God or so many clergy have been misinformed or lying to an absurdly implausible degree for centuries or millennia, checkmate atheists'…
I understand, and I'm trying to explain how your options don't make sense in the context of the senators' recent actions. I take offense to your edit. I'm not being a religious zealot saying God has to exist. If you understood anything about the US security clearance system, you would know that everyone has to undergo a rigorous psychological evaluation every 5 years to keep their Top Secret SCI clearance. You can no…
> everyone has to undergo a rigorous psychological evaluation every 5 years to keep their Top Secret SCI clearance. You can not be unwell and be an intelligence officer at the level of Grusch.
You can, for up to five years.
Assuming that the evaluation actually catches whatever illness you might have.
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#68>Rubio, a longtime advocate for transparency on the alien issue (...)
Person who already believes in aliens and flying saucers finds stories of aliens and flying saucers credible. Film at 11.
Show me some evidence. Show me wreckage. Show me autopsies and photos of alien bodies. Something that can't be walked back from. You say we've reverse engineered alien tech? Publish the research. Tell us how anti-gravity and warp drives work. Give us the science and a replicable model. I don't care that Marco Rubio heard a thing from a guy, I want the smoking gun.
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Gillibrand's actions are speaking louder than what she's saying. https://douglasjohnson.ghost.io/senate-intelligence-bill-giv...
Her actions seem exactly consonant with what she was quoted as saying in the article I linked. She seems more interested in the existence of rogue human Special Access Programs than that of space aliens. Why do you think her actions imply anything else?
Because of this specific section
> The new UAP language (found in Section 1104 of the bill) would require "any person currently or formerly under contract with the Federal Government that has in their possession material or information provided by or derived from the Federal Government relating to unidentified anomalous phenomena that formerly or currently is protected by any form of special access or restricted access" to notify the director of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) within 60 days of enactment, and to provide within 180 days (six months) "a comprehensive list of all non-earth origin or exotic unidentified anomalous phenomena material" possessed and to make it available to the AARO director for "assessment, analysis, and inspection."
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