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Do you want your children to be like you? A programmer's perspective

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Re: Do you want your children to be like you? A programmer's perspective

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pfannkuchen wrote: post #39
ramayac wrote: post #21

Short interesting story: My mom is an Architect, one day when I was about 8 or 9 she said: don't be an Architect, you won't get paid fairly (developing country). It got burned out in my mind, like a command. And slowly moved to "Don't do art stuff". I stopped drawing and started using computers more and more. Only in my adulthood I started to explore Architecture, and ooohhh boy, I freaking love it. And I would have…

> And slowly moved to "Don't do art stuff" Any insight on how this part happened? As a total layman, architecture strikes me as only 10% or so art in the painting sense of art. It could be more if you also consider e.g. software design to be an art, but at that point most things are art.

Yes, you're 100% correct, I do consider Software Development an art form (self expression).

I self expressed the most with drawings in my childhood, and I had this association in my mind with art/drawing/architecture.

In my late 30's I've taken to drawing again and consumed more architecture content to settle this matter in my head.

Re: Do you want your children to be like you? A programmer's perspective

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Reasonabl wrote: post #23
ramayac wrote: post #21

Short interesting story: My mom is an Architect, one day when I was about 8 or 9 she said: don't be an Architect, you won't get paid fairly (developing country). It got burned out in my mind, like a command. And slowly moved to "Don't do art stuff". I stopped drawing and started using computers more and more. Only in my adulthood I started to explore Architecture, and ooohhh boy, I freaking love it. And I would have…

Same story. Don’t be a graphic designer, they said. Well, now I have a designer’s eye but can’t put words nor shapes to it. Also suddenly this passion for calligraphy and typography hit me in mid twenties? Is that what they call… a calling?

That's a calling for sure, is where you mind sees it self finding a conduit for self expression. Do try it! It's a beautiful art form! And don't have to drop everything to make it, it can be a hobby (for now), but try it.

The romanticize take is a calling for life. But we humans are changing machines, and what's true to some it can be so different to others.

I had "burst of interest" to make fermented food in 2018-2019, like a crazy fever to understand kombucha/sauerkraut, etc. I freaking love it.

Now in 2022-2023 it's the compost calling. A compost is so simple, but if you want it to have it in the shortest time, with the best quality, and without any stench, you actually have to put some thought into "what goes into it".

Anyway, silly examples but hope that helps in some way.

Re: Do you want your children to be like you? A programmer's perspective

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xsmasher wrote: post #52
ramayac wrote: post #21

Short interesting story: My mom is an Architect, one day when I was about 8 or 9 she said: don't be an Architect, you won't get paid fairly (developing country). It got burned out in my mind, like a command. And slowly moved to "Don't do art stuff". I stopped drawing and started using computers more and more. Only in my adulthood I started to explore Architecture, and ooohhh boy, I freaking love it. And I would have…

It's funny how an offhand comment can turn into personal dogma. One day driving through a beachfront town I asked my mother what job you had to do to buy one of those beachfront mansions. She joked "nothing legal!" I'm sure it affected my views on wealth for a long time.

Something so minuscule! 100% agreed.

Re: Do you want your children to be like you? A programmer's perspective

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taylodl wrote: post #45
ramayac wrote: post #21

Short interesting story: My mom is an Architect, one day when I was about 8 or 9 she said: don't be an Architect, you won't get paid fairly (developing country). It got burned out in my mind, like a command. And slowly moved to "Don't do art stuff". I stopped drawing and started using computers more and more. Only in my adulthood I started to explore Architecture, and ooohhh boy, I freaking love it. And I would have…

Moral of the story - every job sucks in some way. That's why I told my kids to do what interests them but remember, they call it "work" for a reason.

Haha, it's a more practical take!

Re: Do you want your children to be like you? A programmer's perspective

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asfasfo wrote: post #54
ramayac wrote: post #21

Short interesting story: My mom is an Architect, one day when I was about 8 or 9 she said: don't be an Architect, you won't get paid fairly (developing country). It got burned out in my mind, like a command. And slowly moved to "Don't do art stuff". I stopped drawing and started using computers more and more. Only in my adulthood I started to explore Architecture, and ooohhh boy, I freaking love it. And I would have…

My mom is an architect in the US and said the same thing

Sorry to hear that! It's a rough but beautiful profession.
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