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Re: Board Changes at Signal

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They have exactly that: you can set up a periodic encrypted backup under settings > chats. It'll occasionally ask you for your backup password so you don't forget it too

Not seeing this on iOS.

Why even bother with signal if you use closed source iOS?

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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I see some comments saying they are happy moxie is out. I for one am saddened. I trusted signal in part due to his persona. And his in your face attitude towards that one company that provided software to law enforcement that claimed to hack signal.

Moxie the anarchist owes the rest of us a public statement about what he thinks Signal is now that the board has US State Department ghouls on it.

> what he thinks Signal is now

I suspect it would be some approximation of “no longer his”. I can understand your frustration but this kind of message is likely only to exacerbate his.

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Moxie the anarchist owes the rest of us a public statement about what he thinks Signal is now that the board has US State Department ghouls on it.

> what he thinks Signal is now I suspect it would be some approximation of “no longer his”. I can understand your frustration but this kind of message is likely only to exacerbate his.

Don't impute motives to strangers on the internet. I have no frustration.

I am requesting a statement from someone that has been very outspoken on many issues around secure, safe, private communication in the past and is in a better position than any of us to follow up on his advocacy.

He has had a very strong effect on the ecosystem including explicitly denigrating non-centralized efforts like the Matrix ecosystem (to the detriment of these non-US controlled systems supported by the French and Germans who had reason to be cautious in the wake of the Snowden revelations).

As someone who has had a significant impact in this area he owes us. Otherwise we can all draw our own conclusions.

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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This is just anti-cryptocurrency bias; other payment systems require identity by law, which renders them much less useful for many people (and unworkable for most service providers who must then be regulated and licensed as money transmitters). This was the only method available of doing payments inside the app in a way that met their product requirements. It's fine to not like cryptocurrency; it's intellectually dis…

Crime is the perfectly sensible default assumption for cryptocurrency apps in 2023. Accusing people of anti-cryptocurrency bias is like saying someone has anti-forest-fire bias; there are certainly scenarios where such a bias could be unfair, but the burden of proof is on you, not the other guy.

Since I love playing Devil’s Advocate...

I can recall specifically two kinds of crime with cryptocurrency: “pump and dump” pyramid schemes and money laundering, which is hiding particularly nasty crimes like human trafficking. I won’t deny these are terribly victimizing things (that would be truly advocating for the devil).

On the other hand, there are people who don’t enjoy the banking infrastructure that Americans have; people in nations without nearly the wealth of America. Now they have these open-source networks they can implement on their own terms. The people doing this research and making these offerings might be serving such customers, whether by practice or intention.

Crime is not “the perfectly sensible default assumption for cryptocurrency apps in 2023” unless the one making the assumption is naive to these perspectives. This is an (unconscious) anti-cryptocurrency bias by definition: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_heuristic.

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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In 2020-2021 it seemed like 20-30% of my contacts were using signal as their SMS/MMS app of choice. Then they forced SMS users off the platform, giving some reasoning that SMS users don't understand which messages get encrypted, or something. I lost track of signal's usage and uninstalled it after it lost SMS support. At this point I don't know anyone still using Signal regularly anymore.

They removed SMS support because Google doesn't provide an RCS API, causing received RCS messages to fall on the floor. All carriers in the U.S. will default to RCS when messaging between Android phones these days.

I never saw this anywhere until this comment. The letters "RCS" never appear anywhere in the blog post[0] where they announced they were removing SMS Signal support. Where did you hear this from? This would be a much more reasonable reason than the drivel the espoused in their blog post.

[0]: https://www.signal.org/blog/sms-removal-android/

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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post #57

I see some comments saying they are happy moxie is out. I for one am saddened. I trusted signal in part due to his persona. And his in your face attitude towards that one company that provided software to law enforcement that claimed to hack signal.

Moxie the anarchist owes the rest of us a public statement about what he thinks Signal is now that the board has US State Department ghouls on it.

Cfr, wef … list goes on

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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They removed SMS support because Google doesn't provide an RCS API, causing received RCS messages to fall on the floor. All carriers in the U.S. will default to RCS when messaging between Android phones these days.

I never saw this anywhere until this comment. The letters "RCS" never appear anywhere in the blog post[0] where they announced they were removing SMS Signal support. Where did you hear this from? This would be a much more reasonable reason than the drivel the espoused in their blog post. [0]: https://www.signal.org/blog/sms-removal-android/

On this very website!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33258684

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