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Re: Sync will shut down on June 30

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It's like Twitter.

The next Reddit CEO will turn up and their grand plan will be to invert whether or not the company loves/hates developers using their API.

Then they'll try to convince developers to come back, because "this time I've really changed".

Re: Sync will shut down on June 30

#63

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The simple fact is that you need money to host a site, to have moderation, to develop and maintain features etc. The problem apps are shutting down is because they don't want to loose money. If they make a new site, they will likely loose even more money. And they likely can't get profitable without resorting to same scummy behaviour as reddit.

Reddit moderators are unpaid volunteers.

And among the worst sorts of people imaginable. Maybe they should be paid positions that are interviewed for and regularly undergo performance reviews.

Re: Sync will shut down on June 30

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Rather than shut down, it would be a great time for all these clients to get together and decide on an official alternative site to reddit, and start supporting that. If they did it en-masse and in a coordinated fashion, it might be enough social momentum to achieve escape velocity on the new site.

I have an unlaunched open source reddit alternative. Before I go into that too much though, note that there are a bunch: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/ My vision: Free to browse, subscription to interact. You choose your subscription amount. I take $1 to run the server, anything beyond that gets split evenly between everything you upvote that month. For the $1, I give 30% of the cut to any 3rd party app…

Seems like it's not really a drop-in replacement for Reddit - looks more like a Deviant Art or a YouTube replacement to me?

A lot of Reddit (like HN) is linking to 3rd party content, and not much of it is actually user-generated OC.

Nice site though - it looks really nice.

Re: Sync will shut down on June 30

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Rather than shut down, it would be a great time for all these clients to get together and decide on an official alternative site to reddit, and start supporting that. If they did it en-masse and in a coordinated fashion, it might be enough social momentum to achieve escape velocity on the new site.

Building an alternative to Reddit is actually incredibly hard, especially if you suddenly get a huge influx of new users. Not talking about the technical side of things, but the community. How should the developers of these clients feel certain that whatever alternative they decide to endorse won't end up like Voat?

Not only that but who (and how) is all of this hardware getting paid for? Running a large web service is not cheap and nobody wants to front those costs for practically no gain.

Re: Sync will shut down on June 30

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That's a poor assessment as you're expecting pro features for nothing. Their decision to include adverts does not make them deserving of this.

Not only adverts - animated adverts. They are serving data from a free API and looking to piggy back off it. Not only is my assessment not "poor", it is too kind to the developers.

I truly don't understand the narrative from the past few days.

These third parties lived by serving their own ads instead of reddit's. They paid $0 to reddit yet made a very good living themselves (at least for the top ones like apollo and sync).

And yet the narrative is now that they provided tremendous value to reddit by providing them with exposure (lol!) and that their users were creating most of reddit's content (which is most certainly false) and that reddit are monsters who duped them.

Let's be real here. Those developers had a good run, they made a living of of reddit's content for a decade. Bravo. That was nice. But they all knew it was going to end one day ("Is it fair for Apollo to not pay reddit?" was a common question on the apollo sub, so even the USERS knew it wasn't a fully bidirectional relationship).

Re: Sync will shut down on June 30

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I have an unlaunched open source reddit alternative. Before I go into that too much though, note that there are a bunch: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/ My vision: Free to browse, subscription to interact. You choose your subscription amount. I take $1 to run the server, anything beyond that gets split evenly between everything you upvote that month. For the $1, I give 30% of the cut to any 3rd party app…

Seems like it's not really a drop-in replacement for Reddit - looks more like a Deviant Art or a YouTube replacement to me? A lot of Reddit (like HN) is linking to 3rd party content, and not much of it is actually user-generated OC. Nice site though - it looks really nice.

This is 100% correct! I'm prioritizing self-hosted OC over external linking, mainly because my priority was finding a way to reward creators.

Allowing external links would be fairly trivial, but I'd have to think through the monetization aspects of that. Not sure if I have the right model, but my hope is that since it's open source even if I go wrong someone else can find the right one.

Also thank you for the kind words about the design - it's been a fun labor of love.

Re: Sync will shut down on June 30

#68

It's like Twitter. The next Reddit CEO will turn up and their grand plan will be to invert whether or not the company loves/hates developers using their API. Then they'll try to convince developers to come back, because "this time I've really changed".

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Re: Sync will shut down on June 30

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Rather than shut down, it would be a great time for all these clients to get together and decide on an official alternative site to reddit, and start supporting that. If they did it en-masse and in a coordinated fashion, it might be enough social momentum to achieve escape velocity on the new site.

I have an unlaunched open source reddit alternative. Before I go into that too much though, note that there are a bunch: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/ My vision: Free to browse, subscription to interact. You choose your subscription amount. I take $1 to run the server, anything beyond that gets split evenly between everything you upvote that month. For the $1, I give 30% of the cut to any 3rd party app…

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