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lmao it's not even available yet, how can it be doa?
It's a saying - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dead_on_arrival (definition 4)
here's one for you - what happened at the announcement is called an eta. estimated time of arrival. not arrival, not doa. eta.
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I have no opinion on this device or the Oculus, the thing I can say is that the Oculus is not an AR device, only VR.
Yeah... I have some news for you: https://www.google.com/glass/start/
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Am MBP plus a studio display is about $3.5k. Nobody seems to object to that pricing.
A MBP has a keyboard, several hours of battery life, and a couple decades of precedent that has allowed a large catalog of applications to form. The iGooglyEyePro isn't there yet.
It’s a tool. Don’t want the tool? Don’t use it. There are absolutely going to be use-cases for it, even if Baudrillard would prefer we all just use our imaginations. Who needs a car when all we need is to just stroll amongst the trees and let nature fuel our imaginations? Because I need to get to the airport on time and with a bunch of luggage.
Right why talk about anything ever everyone just sit in silence.
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Am MBP plus a studio display is about $3.5k. Nobody seems to object to that pricing.
Value proposition is known and high. My perceived value on Vision is 90% chance that this $3.5k device will be collecting dust on a shelf
It’s easy to just claim it’s worthless without firsthand experience. It’s not so easy to discount the giant investment and expertise that have been brought to bear on developing it.
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Yeah... I have some news for you: https://www.google.com/glass/start/
I don't understand your reply. You talked about the difference between the Vision and the Oculus, and then reply with a link to the discontinued Google Glass?
You replied that Oculus is just VR, while the Apple thing is also AR.
I pointed out that Google Glass (which was an AR device focused on business customers) was discontinued. It seems that this market either does not exist, or is far too small to be meaningful for those trillion dollar companies.
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A lot of postmodern thought results in the formation of cults, in which people occupy a virtual world inside their own minds.
How about a metamodernist cult instead- what if the future is a gizmo-mind hybrid? That’s right, I’m talking about the Neuralink.
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And before the iPhone, making calls was the major reason for buying phones. Before the Apple Watch, telling time was the major reason for people buying Watches. Do you think Apple has no plans on ever selling a cheaper version? Has the techno geek crowd ever been right about Apple?
How much cheaper will the cheap version be relative to the Pro? 8x more than the competition? 5x? It’s fine to believe that there everything will work out somehow, as things are wont to do, but don’t pretend you know how it will more than the average layman. Let the miracle unfold on its own.
The ASP of Macs are also higher.
Apple hasn’t competed on price - ever. I know the HN crowd has an income that skews higher than most. Why is it so crazy to think that there might be people in the world that will drop $3800 on something because they can?
I can imagine some of my coworkers (and maybe even myself) take a small percent of our stock vest when it comes and buy it just because it’s a fun toy?
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How much cheaper will the cheap version be relative to the Pro? 8x more than the competition? 5x? It’s fine to believe that there everything will work out somehow, as things are wont to do, but don’t pretend you know how it will more than the average layman. Let the miracle unfold on its own.
The average selling price of an iPhone is 3x - 4x that of an Android. I think iPhones are doing pretty well. The ASP of Macs are also higher. Apple hasn’t competed on price - ever. I know the HN crowd has an income that skews higher than most. Why is it so crazy to think that there might be people in the world that will drop $3800 on something because they can? I can imagine some of my coworkers (and maybe even mysel…
Apple doesn’t compete on price, but it’s the difference between the next iPhone or the next Mac Studio. So will the Vision Pro be a pilot device for a segment specific to that minority of affluent upper-earners as a fun toy? Or is it really meant to bring AR/VR to the masses and fundamentally transform computing as we know it?
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I am curious. How many people buy the $1-2K phone flagships... then there's this. People buy a $2K MBP is it a huge jump to go to $3.5K? I would like to see it succeed. Edit: my concern with it, is will it be like an iPad. I pre-ordered simula one which doesn't event exist yet and won't be on par with this hardware wise. But it will be a fully open Linux OS. You could just write/run programs eg. in whatever language…
I so badly want a VR/AR headset that gives me a super crisp, super high resolution, low latency virtual monitor that I can easily move around