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Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

#61

The best thing about this whole event is that they didn't mention AI even once, all they're saying is ML. Which is what it is. AI is a hype word.

ML is subset of AI. AI that is inclusive of other concepts and it's not a buzzword. It's valid to call anything ML as AI. Sure there is a lot of AI hype but it's not some made up marketing jargon.

It’s a chameleon of a term that can mean anything you want. That’s not a good thing.

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

#62
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I didn’t see a reason to upgrade and I feel I am their audience here, I own the last one.

TBF I had the Macbook from 2015 before I felt like upgrading to the M1 in 2021. You usually buy Macs every year?

I did get an Apple Silicon MacBook 18 months or so ago but my 2015 MacBook Pro is still fine for pretty much everything except ML and video/image processing.

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

#64

As a developer I'd be terrified if Apple was showing my app in one of these events.

I'm pretty sure they reach out to the developers in advance if it's actually used directly (and not just in the background, like on the Dock or something). But I'll bet it's a real opportunity to gain new users, so it's probably more exciting than terrifying!

Developer of Apollo was completely surprised that they mentioned his app today[0]

[0] https://old.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/141kfmi/wwdc_2023_ev...

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

#65
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Incoming: “Not going to upgrade, I’m fine with my 1996 toaster, thank you!” It’d be actually interesting to read from people who buy a top config and how they use it.

I'm using an M1 pro macbook for work and it's fast as fuck. Seriously considering getting a studio or a macbook pro for some home game programming and asset creation work.

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

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The PCIe slots look easy enough to get at.

Apple showed a lineup of compatible PCIe cards, with a variety of accelerators and I/O hardware but conspicuously no GPUs. https://i.imgur.com/28J1KfN.jpg The Apple Silicon transition ended support for external GPUs, so I think it's safe to assume they won't support internal ones either.

Man I'm so out of what's going on with desktop computing lol, feeling old

Could somebody explain what these are?

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you off by one order of magnitude? Or does this cost as much as a couple quite nice cars.

I spend a whole bunch more time at my Mac than I do in a car, and gain much more value from it too, so that doesn't seem unreasonable...

I’ve connected to plenty of machines that are worth more than my car (although it isn’t as if my car was $35000 in the first place, that’s a bit excessive!). I was just using cars as a unit of measurement, to aid intuition. Maybe I was too circuitous in my original comment.

I only see prices in the 7k range on the site.

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The PCIe slots look easy enough to get at.

Apple showed a lineup of compatible PCIe cards, with a variety of accelerators and I/O hardware but conspicuously no GPUs. https://i.imgur.com/28J1KfN.jpg The Apple Silicon transition ended support for external GPUs, so I think it's safe to assume they won't support internal ones either.

The product page specifically touts the Radeon Pro W6800X Duo.

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

#69
192GB of memory on the Mac Studio is enough to run Llama 65B in full FP16.

And at 800GB/s bandwidth, it will do so pretty quickly. I think my M1 Pro memory bandwidth is 200GB/s and I was running quantized 13B Alpaca relatively quickly, I'd say useable for a personal chatbot, and I think it was swapping every now and then causing pauses.

So having 4x the memory bandwidth should allow large models to run pretty damn fast. Maybe not H100 GPGPU speeds but enough for people to do some development on.

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