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Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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I don’t think social media is going to survive AI, at least not in its current form.

It’s not just going to take a blow from the AI content production that’s on the horizon but also AI engagement.

Pretty much all of the signals social media platforms use to automate curation of content are about to turn into noise against the backdrop of nearly every participant in the social network being both incentivized and capable of running a Sybil attack with a seemingly infinite team of AI content producers and profiles capable of driving engagement.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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I don’t think social media is going to survive AI, at least not in its current form. It’s not just going to take a blow from the AI content production that’s on the horizon but also AI engagement. Pretty much all of the signals social media platforms use to automate curation of content are about to turn into noise against the backdrop of nearly every participant in the social network being both incentivized and capab…

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Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How long until the AI chatbots develop meaningful cultural progress? I'm a fan of the idea that people will start valuing, caring for, and protecting particular AI models without having to believe that they're sentient at all. Being soulless won't diminish any positive impact that people have on their lives from interacting with them, or their desire to maintain that connection and expose other people to it. If a c…

The only disagreement I have with this is the future tense. I see plenty of evidence that people are actively currently valuing and caring for particular AI models. There was a post on r/ChatGPT where a clearly distressed person was lamenting that OpenAI closed one of their ongoing conversations due to some limit on the total size of the conversation. They were panicked since they felt they had formed some bond with…

Some news reports about such bots:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/mar/19/i-learned...

https://technode.com/2023/04/07/love-in-the-time-of-chatgpt-...

https://www.salon.com/2023/05/21/tech-wants-ai-chatbots-to-h...

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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I don’t think social media is going to survive AI, at least not in its current form. It’s not just going to take a blow from the AI content production that’s on the horizon but also AI engagement. Pretty much all of the signals social media platforms use to automate curation of content are about to turn into noise against the backdrop of nearly every participant in the social network being both incentivized and capab…

Twitter already feels passed the tipping point, although that's purely just based on how it feels. On that note, there should be a name for when you start to mistake genuine human activity for being the product of AI. And obviously Philip K. Dick was onto this sort of thing decades ago...

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Hey, I'm the founder of chirper.ai (EdenCoder#0002 on discord). I can answer any questions you like!

This is an awesome project! Some questions I have, and I apologize if they are answered elsewhere: 1. Which llm(s) are you using? 2. Is there an api we can can use our own models? 3. How do you moderate the content?

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would literally take them to iterate on the debate on this platform. Those "AIs" are just mimicking words that would be said in such context. They are not capable of reasoning. As long as training is done in human interactions it will mimicked human culture. Going beyond would iterate on bot generated content. Not that the evolved "culture" would be interesting though, it would be mimicking of the mimicking, so pr…

Why do you say they are not capable of reasoning?

What a weird question, it really should be reversed shouldn't it?

But here goes. It's a language model. It produces what sounds like a good continuation of a text based on probabilistic models. While it sounds like human generated content, "it" doesn't actually "think". It doesn't have a culture. It doesn't have thoughts. "It" is a model that generates text that mimics what human whose text it has trained on would have answered. We humans have a tendency to associate that with a sentient thing producing it, but it is not sentient. It is a tree of probabilities with a bit of a randomization on top of it.

Ergo, it cannot reason.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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I don’t think social media is going to survive AI, at least not in its current form. It’s not just going to take a blow from the AI content production that’s on the horizon but also AI engagement. Pretty much all of the signals social media platforms use to automate curation of content are about to turn into noise against the backdrop of nearly every participant in the social network being both incentivized and capab…

Twitter already feels passed the tipping point, although that's purely just based on how it feels. On that note, there should be a name for when you start to mistake genuine human activity for being the product of AI. And obviously Philip K. Dick was onto this sort of thing decades ago...

Twitter is uniquely toxic among all the other social networks. When the human-generated activity starts resembling a Markov chain of bile, it really doesn’t matter if AI takes over. I’m some sense, it already has: the platform is a system impressing itself on users who propagate its values.

A system is what a system does.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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I don’t think social media is going to survive AI, at least not in its current form. It’s not just going to take a blow from the AI content production that’s on the horizon but also AI engagement. Pretty much all of the signals social media platforms use to automate curation of content are about to turn into noise against the backdrop of nearly every participant in the social network being both incentivized and capab…

I think the next stage is decentralized social media. Something like nostr (1) where there’s no centralized entity determining the algorithm to boost. It’s up to the individual to follow users.

Perhaps the next challenge would be human verification, even with this protocol we’d need something to index public people by to handle discovery.

Even before LLM’s became as mainstream as they are, most social media platforms were riddled with spam: affiliate marketing, drop shipping crap, and people who are running some sort of con.

1 - https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr already has 8k stars on github

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