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Yeah I am really nonplussed how this is the top post on HN right now (I know that is against the rules to mention but really)
Because it has nothing to do with EL speakers -- this is just the casual HN dismissal
Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers
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Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers
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Well I guess it's not the wooden box of a speaker that costs $2000-$30000 (normal price range for consumer Hi-Fi speakers). Replacing the speaker drivers would be more like replacing everything within the body of a car.
How do hifi speaker vendors justify such ridiculous prices when most studio monitors are way better priced than that? Insane.
Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers
#63Wouldn't rubber dry out over time? If you pay for a good set of speakers you probably want them to last for decades.
I imagine if this was a tyre then it wouldn't fare so well because the rubber compound is for a completely different use and also exposed to adversities such as wide temperature differences and all sorts of kinetics that a speaker will never experience (hopefully).
Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers
#64Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers
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These seen smaller than a billboard: https://www.crutchfield.com/S-Me16Db11xTX/p_839EMESLD/Martin... And with lower frequency sound, aren't heavy drivers actually better? You literally need more mass/energy to push more air, but at a lot lower frequency so the effect of moving the mass back and forth at 20Hz does not really matter as much as 40Khz?
The weight of the driver is not really a factor so much as a side effect of the engineering. You want to look at it in terms of total volume displaced and the sensitivity (if you are thinking about efficiency). Drivers with more surface area & excursion typically do have larger magnets and support structures. LFE reproduction is all about moving large volumes of air by any means necessary. There are relatively feathe…
Wow I've never heard of this, what are these called? Would love to read more about this tech
Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers
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Lots of traditional speakers already use a rubber ring around the edge of the cone.
Which is what turned to dust in my twenty year old infinitys. They were the cheaper ones but still surprised me.
Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers
#67These speakers seem to work like this: There is a rubber layer, coated with conducting material to serve as electrodes. The signal is applied in form of a high voltage which makes the electrodes attract each other and contract the rubber in between perpendicular to the surface (i.e. the rubber layer gets thinner). Since the rubber material is relatively incompressible though (volume of the material doesn't change), t…
It sounds a little like Bayer’s ViviTouch, but for higher frequency bands. ViviTouch was only used for haptics and sunwoofers as far as I know. https://www.innovationworldcup.com/finalist/vivitouch-eap-he...
Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lots of traditional speakers already use a rubber ring around the edge of the cone.
Which is what turned to dust in my twenty year old infinitys. They were the cheaper ones but still surprised me.
Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well I guess it's not the wooden box of a speaker that costs $2000-$30000 (normal price range for consumer Hi-Fi speakers). Replacing the speaker drivers would be more like replacing everything within the body of a car.
How do hifi speaker vendors justify such ridiculous prices when most studio monitors are way better priced than that? Insane.
Re: Classic components could be replaced by rubber in next-gen loudspeakers
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For one, studio monitors are typically near-field speakers.
"near field speaker" is a marketing term that has no meaning.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_monitor
You dont know what you are talking about. “has no meaning” is such a nothing sandwich,