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Re: No salary wastes everyone's time

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I agree that senior experience is probably important, but also it’s knowing how to negotiate. What does it mean to be negotiated “fairly”? If you don’t like the rate, you come with a counter proposal, for which ideally you have leverage. The leverage is another job offer you found. If you don’t have leverage, you could negotiate a few other ways but they’re less effective. In the end, if you feel you can’t get a comp…

I believe this "dance" to be quite ineffective for both employers and employees, as the best strategy is standard 2 years somewhere then monkey branch for 20% bump in another company. I guess this is a debate as old as time "invisible hand" vs "socialism". I understand both sides of the argument, but think it makes sense to have a bit of government oversight or workers initiatives here to make sure people are not get…

In the beginning of your career, I do think well-timed jumps are very effective. But overall yes, in capitalism (whether you like it or not, this is what we got) the most important skill is getting people to agree/compromise with you. And for people who (for perfectly valid reasons) can't develop this skill, we have institutions such as unions and recruiters that help delegate it somewhat. I don't think standardized non-negotiable tiers of deals are as helpful to us as we seem to think.

Re: No salary wastes everyone's time

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And that is actually a problem for Austria. Ever heard about Austrian unicorn tech companies? Me neither. Upd: I actually checked, there are 6 (six) unicorns in Austria. But no one ever heard of them and you never figure out what are they doing.

I will bite and play the what-about-ism game. And I dont mean this as an insult but factually you wont see crap smeared on sidewalks and armies of dope fiends walking around in the cities of Austria. It seems like profit at the expense of everything else, morals included and sustainable growth are two different concepts. So yes, Austria (country of 10 million) does not have many unicorn companies, but the quality of…

You are right about the quality of life in Austria. It is not a paradise; most Austrian cities have better and worse parts, but generally, Austrians are well off. At the same time, life in Austria is quite expensive too. It's not easy to move to Austria as a self-supporting wealthy individual; getting a working permit is also not easy. Austrian demographics currently are balancing on the edge of self-sustainability thanks to migrants, but the average age is growing fast. In 20 years, about 55% of the population will be 60+. Who will pay for their healthcare and social security? Who will care for and treat them? AI-powered robots? I don't think so.

So Austria will be forced to open floodgates to gastarbaiters from all over the world. And with the aforementioned cost of life, they will have their portion of slums with junkies and crap-smeared sidewalks.

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