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Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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post #3

The concept separation of concerns I apply every where, and I like my dashcam not connected to any cloud, if I ever needed a footage, I’ll just take it from the sdcard.

There are anecdotes if minor crashes there the other person threatens the person with the dash cam to hand over footage. Good luck with getting stabbed.

Fine, I'll tape a knife to the dashcam in case of emergency.

(this is a joke, HN)

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

#62

FTA: > We also wonder about how Personal Safety will be able to do this type of always-on recording without generating excess heat, especially if your phone needs to be mounted in a position that’s likely to see a lot of direct sunlight. That's what I immediately thought of. I can't see this working too well unless they solve the overheating issues. I had my Google Pixel 7 Pro shut down due to overheating, on a reaso…

Presumably the device will do the recording with the screen turned off, so it will generate little heat internally. So I think placing most of the device behind something to shield it from sunlight should be enough to avoid heat issues.

Though I agree with others here that a cheap specialized dashcam device is much better.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

#64

Wonder if they'll use the footage for streetview or AV training data.

That would be cool, but it seems like Google nowadays don't have departments collaborating with each other, how many chat apps do they have still?

Maybe Google Maps will next come with "Record your journey!" mode...

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

#65

There are already apps for this, its not obvious what the big deal is here unless there is some hardware change providing improvements wrt eg. overheating etc. I guess a simple mode change built in is a nice idea, but I agree with others who suggest a dedicated wired-in device is always preferable; the phone useful as a backup for rare occasions when the dashcam isn't available or as an interface.

Two replies to this:

1 - Auto-record when connecting to car bluetooth seems very handy, and possibly only available for a system level feature as opposed to a third party app

2 - Dedicated device is best, but personally my car dash is already overcrowded then with dashcam + navigation + phone.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

#66
post #25

FTA: > We also wonder about how Personal Safety will be able to do this type of always-on recording without generating excess heat, especially if your phone needs to be mounted in a position that’s likely to see a lot of direct sunlight. That's what I immediately thought of. I can't see this working too well unless they solve the overheating issues. I had my Google Pixel 7 Pro shut down due to overheating, on a reaso…

The Exynos based Tensor, made by Samsung is very hot. Google should've collaborated with QC or MT and used TSMC to make their SOC.

Good thing video recording can be practically fully offloaded to specialized blocks and doesn't need the main cores to be driven at high clock.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

#67
post #62

FTA: > We also wonder about how Personal Safety will be able to do this type of always-on recording without generating excess heat, especially if your phone needs to be mounted in a position that’s likely to see a lot of direct sunlight. That's what I immediately thought of. I can't see this working too well unless they solve the overheating issues. I had my Google Pixel 7 Pro shut down due to overheating, on a reaso…

Presumably the device will do the recording with the screen turned off, so it will generate little heat internally. So I think placing most of the device behind something to shield it from sunlight should be enough to avoid heat issues. Though I agree with others here that a cheap specialized dashcam device is much better.

I’d want to use the screen for navigation and the camera for Dashcam at the same time

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

#68
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are chips made by samsung vs tsmc are any different?

Samsung's foundries have struggled for the past few years to achieve their targets, whereas TSMC has continued improving at their projected rates. TSMC's process is now significantly ahead of Samsung's, such that the same designs are better on TSMC. These improvements are along the lines of fewer defects, higher switching speeds, less leakage, etc. The Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 was made on Samsung's fabs. The 8+ Gen 1 is th…

It's not even a recent thing. Way back when Apple used both TSMC and Samsung foundries for their A9 SoC's, the Samsung ones were measured to perform worse than the TSMC ones. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/samsung-vs-tsmc-comp...

It's just the gap has become more noticeable in recent years. (Notably with things like the Snapdragon 888 handwarmer).

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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post #47
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Exynos based Tensor, made by Samsung is very hot. Google should've collaborated with QC or MT and used TSMC to make their SOC.

Snapdragons overheat just fine too, it's not a unique issue. Also what is actually overheating most in this scenario is not the SoC but a display. Open your phone of any brand and model and walk around with it unlocked in the bright summer sunny day outside. The screen will work at max brightness and would become insanely hot from the internal heat in very short time span.

>The screen will work at max brightness and would become insanely hot from the internal heat in very short time span.

It's the sun heating up the black non-reflective back of screen. Probably wouldn't be as much of an issue with transreflective displays. The display showing full brightness definitely contributes to the problem, but it's not the main culprit.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

#70

Hm, let's see: Do I want to wear out the flash memory in an $800 phone, or get a $150 dash cam? This comment applies to Android phones that wouldn't let this thing write to a micro-SD card, of course.

Time to put that 5G hype to the test, stream it directly to google servers like Nest cam cvr
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