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Louis CK inspires Jim Gaffigan to sell comedy special for $5 online

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Re: Louis CK inspires Jim Gaffigan to sell comedy special for $5 online

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That's exactly the reason you want people to be doing it for. It's all very well understanding why consumers want better options, but it has to make sense for both sides, the artists need it to be a viable way to make money.

His point is that if he was doing it right, he would have announced it and launched it at the same time. He blew his biggest moment to capitalize on this idea. \

No, he made two points, in different paragraphs - I was replying to one of them, not the one you noticed.

Re: Louis CK inspires Jim Gaffigan to sell comedy special for $5 online

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post #36

Joe Rogan said he'd do the same on his podcast, which would be great. More artists should do this, in all mediums.

I think it will be an option for many indie publishers in all mediums in a not to distant future.

On the other hand I'm not really sure about the way Gaffigan lays it out, which is not making me want to spend $5.

Re: Louis CK inspires Jim Gaffigan to sell comedy special for $5 online

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post #59

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Okay, I can't just let people keep repeating this. $30k for a promo of this magnitude is not absurd in the least. This thing blew up huge, and it went off huge without a hiccup. If you just hire some low-ball bidder who knows how to slap together some APIs what guarantee do you have that it won't crash and burn under load? If that happens in seed-stage startup, oh boohoo, you disappointed your 100 early adopter frien…

I'm not really arguing about whether $30k was too much or too little. That's beside the point. The point is that it shouldn't cost every comedian who wants to follow Louis CK's lead $30k to setup their own site. It would be a total waste of time and money, not to mention limit the number of people capable of emulating him. Think about why Shopify, Weebly, Blogger, Wordpress exist. Every person who wanted an online st…

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Re: Louis CK inspires Jim Gaffigan to sell comedy special for $5 online

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We're talking about someone with multiple seasons of an eponymous show on FX, a full season of an eponymous show on HBO, and numerous HBO standup specials, along with a studio film director credit, all this following a long career as a TV writer, and we think this Internet special was somehow his break? I don't know, maybe you'll be right in the long run, but I'd bet against you being right. I'll put it differently:…

Who said anything about "his break"? What he did on the Internet was certainly more novel than his previous stuff which has been by countless other people. Again, the "importance" of that is up to Louis to decide, but it's not as obviously ridiculous an assertion as you seem to think.

I'm saddened by the downvotes without any type of on-point rebuttal. Guys there have been thousands and thousands of CK-level entertainers over a hundred years, but how many have done anything resembling this recent special?

Re: Louis CK inspires Jim Gaffigan to sell comedy special for $5 online

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, I can't just let people keep repeating this. $30k for a promo of this magnitude is not absurd in the least. This thing blew up huge, and it went off huge without a hiccup. If you just hire some low-ball bidder who knows how to slap together some APIs what guarantee do you have that it won't crash and burn under load? If that happens in seed-stage startup, oh boohoo, you disappointed your 100 early adopter frien…

I'm not really arguing about whether $30k was too much or too little. That's beside the point. The point is that it shouldn't cost every comedian who wants to follow Louis CK's lead $30k to setup their own site. It would be a total waste of time and money, not to mention limit the number of people capable of emulating him. Think about why Shopify, Weebly, Blogger, Wordpress exist. Every person who wanted an online st…

Alright then, my UX-nerd-rage having subsided, I agree with that. However I think there still is room for a custom crafted experience. Just reading both Gaffigan's and CK's pitches you can feel the difference in polish. Gaffigan is funny, but his message just isn't as on-point.

Re: Louis CK inspires Jim Gaffigan to sell comedy special for $5 online

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Is there a site (or sites) where I can purchase content and the money goes entirely to human creators of that content? I love standup, I love the little guys, but catching them on the day they may be in my city is very inconvenient. It is too bad all those comics can not have a central site to catch their acts, and they can be paid (even if some money gets funneled to that site for costs).

Re: Louis CK inspires Jim Gaffigan to sell comedy special for $5 online

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Who said anything about "his break"? What he did on the Internet was certainly more novel than his previous stuff which has been by countless other people. Again, the "importance" of that is up to Louis to decide, but it's not as obviously ridiculous an assertion as you seem to think.

I'm saddened by the downvotes without any type of on-point rebuttal. Guys there have been thousands and thousands of CK-level entertainers over a hundred years, but how many have done anything resembling this recent special?

>Why is it not the most important moment of his career?

is not a serious question, esp. in light of tptacek's laundry list which you are replying to - it's really up to you to make a positive case rather than up to the universe to make a negative one; and:

>how many [of the thousands and thousands of CK-level entertainers over a hundred years] have done anything resembling this recent special?

is not a serious argument, though it seems to be a declaration that selling his own movie has made him the greatest entertainer (at his level) in history, which is funny.

Re: Louis CK inspires Jim Gaffigan to sell comedy special for $5 online

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post #17

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Incentive for established comedians. Don't minimize the need to be able to front the $100k+ to do the initial filming, venue, rental, etc.

There's a bit of overhead in this price due to him trying to bandage fix an old model with some features of a new one. Instead of trying to reinvent it. If you think about it, you can do a stand up comedy with a cheap at home or at a bar with friends. And upload it to YouTube as a private video and/or use existing platforms to sell video. They could save a lot. They're only not doing this because they just started ta…

But that's not the same value proposition.

The deal is "professionally shot/produced/edited video shot at in a venue with good lighting and sound, in front of a live audience". You're not replicating that for $500.

Re: Louis CK inspires Jim Gaffigan to sell comedy special for $5 online

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post #15

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But even if he is riding the coat-tails of Louis CK, isn't it still a good thing that more people are starting to provide direct content for very reasonable prices?

It is, but if Gaffigan squanders the marketing potential of this, then it will have a serious impact on how much money his special brings in. Since this is only the second time a (well known, mainstream) comedian has tried this, a failure or even just a poorer-than-expected showing could make a lot of other entertainers write Louis CK off as being a one-time thing. They'll assume he succeeded as a novelty and will be…

A common strategy is to pre-announce when you know a competitor is ready to release a product but yours is in the pipeline.

I'm not claiming that this is the case, but if some other comedian is ready to release on Friday (and therefore become the second significant person to do it), Gaffigan's pre-announcement may actually be part of a well planned strategy.

Re: Louis CK inspires Jim Gaffigan to sell comedy special for $5 online

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I'm saddened by the downvotes without any type of on-point rebuttal. Guys there have been thousands and thousands of CK-level entertainers over a hundred years, but how many have done anything resembling this recent special?

>Why is it not the most important moment of his career? is not a serious question, esp. in light of tptacek's laundry list which you are replying to - it's really up to you to make a positive case rather than up to the universe to make a negative one; and: >how many [of the thousands and thousands of CK-level entertainers over a hundred years] have done anything resembling this recent special? is not a serious argume…

Well thanks for piling on. I know you can't down vote this, but I'll leave it here for someone else to do so.
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