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ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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I want to try this, but it's stuck at processing, showing 100% but not usable. I‘ve tried a lot of chat-with-pdf apps, including ChatDOC, ChatPDF, Humata and others. For serious paper reading, I must say that ChatDOC( https://chatdoc.com/ ) is the best option. The accuracy of ChatDOC’s understanding of tables, data, and texts is significantly higher than other products. Also you can upload a folder of files and chat…

ChatDOC can also support doc/docx files. Nice!

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

#62

In answer to file security: "We utilize Amazon Web Services (AWS) for uploading and storing files, ensuring robust security measures, including data encryption and access control." Well, sure, but that's the file at rest. What about the security / privacy of the data as it's fed to ChatGPT? More and more of these "ask your doc / data a question" apps are popping up. Isn't this about equivalent to putting the document…

If you use the API, which this clearly does, they don't train on the input. You can see their guarantees in their terms and conditions, but you have a reasonable expectation of privacy. I say reasonable, because in a company growing that fast, everything is on fire all the time and security is the last thing considered.

Azure OpenAI’s GPT APIs I would imagine is likely more secure, and now is HIPAA compliant as well.

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you use the API, which this clearly does, they don't train on the input. You can see their guarantees in their terms and conditions, but you have a reasonable expectation of privacy. I say reasonable, because in a company growing that fast, everything is on fire all the time and security is the last thing considered.

Azure OpenAI’s GPT APIs I would imagine is likely more secure, and now is HIPAA compliant as well.

source for the curious: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/cognitive-service...

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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I've tried this and chatpdf with some Computer Aided Geometric Design mathematics theses and papers. These tools do not seem to "read" the math parts of the papers, only the text. It would be amazing to have something which could digest a bunch of papers and start to help me navigate them, but a lot of the answers I get are "I don't have enough context to help you". Is there a better tool or way to use LLMs with scho…

You could just use the latex source code of the paper in the context window if you want it to be aware of the math. You can download latex source for any paper or arxiv. If you have many papers, perhaps upload the latex source code of all of them into some vector database like pinecone and use them with LangChain for retrieval.

Great point, I think this is important knowledge to spread. Using latex format is a sweet hack to do math based analysis for papers when using LLM frameworks. As long as you have your work in latex already or even if you can convert it to Latex. It seems to be able to understand Lyapunov stability equations, Kalman filter analysis, or Hamiltonian equations when I paste them in. There is definitely hallucinations here and there but the understanding is amazing. For instance, you can convert a Word document with Mathtype equations that use Latex and then copy it into ChatGPT and it can articulate what every line item equation is doing. With reasonable coherence. Likely its not accurate with cutting edge scientists, but pretty sweet for the engineers.

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

#66

In answer to file security: "We utilize Amazon Web Services (AWS) for uploading and storing files, ensuring robust security measures, including data encryption and access control." Well, sure, but that's the file at rest. What about the security / privacy of the data as it's fed to ChatGPT? More and more of these "ask your doc / data a question" apps are popping up. Isn't this about equivalent to putting the document…

If you use the API, which this clearly does, they don't train on the input. You can see their guarantees in their terms and conditions, but you have a reasonable expectation of privacy. I say reasonable, because in a company growing that fast, everything is on fire all the time and security is the last thing considered.

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Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you use the API, which this clearly does, they don't train on the input. You can see their guarantees in their terms and conditions, but you have a reasonable expectation of privacy. I say reasonable, because in a company growing that fast, everything is on fire all the time and security is the last thing considered.

Azure OpenAI’s GPT APIs I would imagine is likely more secure, and now is HIPAA compliant as well.

I’d really love a consultant to stick their neck out and say these environments are hipaa/hi tech compliant. A press release does not make a defense in a breach.

This may be a dumb question, but how would Azure ensure GPU clean tenancy and segmentation of data in these pipelines at those prices?

[0] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/compliance/regulatory/offe...

‘Microsoft in-scope cloud platforms & services Azure and Azure Government Azure DevOps Services Dynamics 365 and Dynamics 365 U.S. Government Intune Microsoft Defender for Cloud Apps Microsoft Healthcare Bot Service’

Are they piggybacking on that?

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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post #13

I've tried this and chatpdf with some Computer Aided Geometric Design mathematics theses and papers. These tools do not seem to "read" the math parts of the papers, only the text. It would be amazing to have something which could digest a bunch of papers and start to help me navigate them, but a lot of the answers I get are "I don't have enough context to help you". Is there a better tool or way to use LLMs with scho…

Do you have any example papers i can play with?

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

#69

I want to try this, but it's stuck at processing, showing 100% but not usable. I‘ve tried a lot of chat-with-pdf apps, including ChatDOC, ChatPDF, Humata and others. For serious paper reading, I must say that ChatDOC( https://chatdoc.com/ ) is the best option. The accuracy of ChatDOC’s understanding of tables, data, and texts is significantly higher than other products. Also you can upload a folder of files and chat…

Since HN took off we reached max. capacity with our vector database. Working on it!

Re: ScholarTurbo: Use ChatGPT to chat with PDFs (supports GPT-4)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the problem, we don't. All the tools on top of GPT that I tried has the same problem.

That's a big part of the reason I built the open source tool Semantra[1]. I only really trust the semantic search part of this problem as it is constrained by context, so I tried to make the user experience good on top of simpler semantic search without any chatbot capabilities. [1] https://github.com/freedmand/semantra

that seems a really good tool, will try it later. thanks for sharing, I hope you get the deserved traction with it!
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