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New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Post by yosito »

candiddevmike wrote: post #15

I've been suffering from hypoglycemia for a good part of my life, and recently the episodes have started to become a bit more frequent (a bad hypoglycemia episode is like an incredibly horrifying panic attack). Trying to figure out WTF is going on with me has been daunting, everyone tells me to eat more sugar or more complex carbs which just seems to repeat the cycle. No one wants to test me, or knows what to test me…

Not hypoglycemia, but I have IBS. Doctors usually run some basic standard health panels, everything comes back pretty close to normal, they tell me I look super healthy, and that if a food bothers me, don't eat it. It took me two years of this to start to have an idea of which foods bother me, but no doctor has been helpful with figuring out what is going on with my body or why so many foods bother me.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

btilly wrote: post #13
jmartrican wrote: post #8

Really confused as to how processed meats lead to an insulin resistance disease. Also, I thought refined carbs have similar glucose index as their non-refined counter parts, so how would adding more insulin inducing foods be beneficial? And how come the grand daddy of insulin spikes, sugar, isn't a factor?

The non-refined versions may release as much glucose, but they don't do it all at once. Also the fiber that they contain is good for you. Processed meats contain a LOT of salt. Salt doesn't cause diabetes, but it does cause water retention and high blood pressure, so is bad for people with diabetes. As for sugar, they are on the list of foods they examined. What they found is that we're eating more French fries, so t…

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Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Post by jackschultz »

candiddevmike wrote: post #15

I've been suffering from hypoglycemia for a good part of my life, and recently the episodes have started to become a bit more frequent (a bad hypoglycemia episode is like an incredibly horrifying panic attack). Trying to figure out WTF is going on with me has been daunting, everyone tells me to eat more sugar or more complex carbs which just seems to repeat the cycle. No one wants to test me, or knows what to test me…

You don't need a CGM, just get a GM. I had a case where I wanted to see the effect of foods, and the feeling of blood sugar levels that change during the day. I thought of going through one of the brands to get one but the per month price was decently high. The other issue with CGMs is they're for people with high blood sugar, so they're more tuned to high levels, not low levels you'd have from hypoglycemia, so I'm not sure how accurate those numbers would be. Besides, it's 15 minutes late and doesn't test the blood sugar directly (got this info when asked nutritionist friend who helps people with CGMs).

Getting the normal glucose meter was great. The poking of the needle barely causes an effect, and you can get pretty ingrained with numbers. The first couple weeks with the thing I went through tons of tests, before meals, various times after meals, and then if the sugar level was high, meaning over 130 for me, I'd go for a 10 minute walk and could see and feel that the numbers dropped to the low 100s so quickly. At this point I can tell decently well what level my number is.

The glucose monitor with poking stick is really great. Better, faster, cheaper, more trustworthy data than the current continuous monitors out there.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Post by jghn »

senectus1 wrote: post #58
jeffbee wrote: post #50

Who else has trouble interpreting these guidelines? What's 300g of fruit in practical terms? I ate a huge honeycrisp apple for breakfast. It probably weighed 400 or 500g. Is that a whole day of fruit? Or, does it not really count because of the water content? I also ate half a dozen dried apricots. Am I supposed to mentally rehydrate them to arrive at the serving size? And what about this use of the term "optimal"? T…

>I ate a huge honeycrisp apple for breakfast. It probably weighed 400 or 500g that is huge... a half kilo apple?!?!

And one bred to have extra sugar to boot

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Post by rdedev »

jmartrican wrote: post #8

Really confused as to how processed meats lead to an insulin resistance disease. Also, I thought refined carbs have similar glucose index as their non-refined counter parts, so how would adding more insulin inducing foods be beneficial? And how come the grand daddy of insulin spikes, sugar, isn't a factor?

I believe the theory is that processed meat leads to visceral fat accumulation in the pancreas. Of course you can mitigate the risk if you exercise and eat meat in moderation.

https://youtu.be/X5GIExMa4rM

This is the video I got it from. I'm in no way an expert on this topic so take it with a bit of salt

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Post by DenisM »

candiddevmike wrote: post #15

I've been suffering from hypoglycemia for a good part of my life, and recently the episodes have started to become a bit more frequent (a bad hypoglycemia episode is like an incredibly horrifying panic attack). Trying to figure out WTF is going on with me has been daunting, everyone tells me to eat more sugar or more complex carbs which just seems to repeat the cycle. No one wants to test me, or knows what to test me…

I know a guy who had that. Turned out these actually were panic attacks after all. Finger-prick blood sugar test told the story, and anxiety meds fixed it right up.

Hypoglycemia actually causes a panic attack, so symptoms are the same.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Post by Izikiel43 »

senectus1 wrote: post #58
jeffbee wrote: post #50

Who else has trouble interpreting these guidelines? What's 300g of fruit in practical terms? I ate a huge honeycrisp apple for breakfast. It probably weighed 400 or 500g. Is that a whole day of fruit? Or, does it not really count because of the water content? I also ate half a dozen dried apricots. Am I supposed to mentally rehydrate them to arrive at the serving size? And what about this use of the term "optimal"? T…

>I ate a huge honeycrisp apple for breakfast. It probably weighed 400 or 500g that is huge... a half kilo apple?!?!

Yeah, you can get cosmic crisp apples of around 400g

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Post by Operyl »

dangwhy wrote: post #55
Operyl wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not universal, my mother is pre-diabetic, has a good diet, and isn't overweight.

> isn't overweight i am not overweight but i am fat, if that makes sense. Lacking muscle makes you prone to low insulin sensitivity and t2d.

I guess it’s worth qualifying that my mother is not fat either, she’s a normal skinny human being with regular muscle density in this regard.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Post by jeffbee »

jghn wrote: post #64
senectus1 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I ate a huge honeycrisp apple for breakfast. It probably weighed 400 or 500g that is huge... a half kilo apple?!?!

And one bred to have extra sugar to boot

Yeah they are pretty sweet, why I didn't eat anything else at breakfast. I am fairly sure that an all-apple diet would kill a person.
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