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Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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While I agree that CEOs are overpayed, I think the same applies to software engineers. Software Engineering has been a pay/perk bubble for years that was due for a correction, and like when Elon cut the free gourmet lunches and coffees for Twitter staff, I'm sure the Google engineers will survive. Meanwhile Google's "raters", the army of workers who do the hard work of moderating and testing Google's platforms are ge…

I disagree about being overpaid. Similar to other professions - engineering and medicine for example - we have a career which requires a dedication to constant learning. We build systems which allow companies to generate billions in revenue and deserve a slice of the pie.

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Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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I said this in another thread complaining about Pichai: Google 2019 Net Income - $36B 2022 Net Income - $60B If was part of the workforce I would be even more pissed just at the company itself. Laying off 12k and cuts in perks after $60B in net income.

Significant portions of companies like google are parallel structures unrelated to revenue and body shops piled high to buy localised political influence.

Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

#63

While I agree that CEOs are overpayed, I think the same applies to software engineers. Software Engineering has been a pay/perk bubble for years that was due for a correction, and like when Elon cut the free gourmet lunches and coffees for Twitter staff, I'm sure the Google engineers will survive. Meanwhile Google's "raters", the army of workers who do the hard work of moderating and testing Google's platforms are ge…

Totally agree. Tech salary bubble is going to burst soon. As a software engineer myself, I've already started looking for a plan B.

Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

#64

While I agree that CEOs are overpayed, I think the same applies to software engineers. Software Engineering has been a pay/perk bubble for years that was due for a correction, and like when Elon cut the free gourmet lunches and coffees for Twitter staff, I'm sure the Google engineers will survive. Meanwhile Google's "raters", the army of workers who do the hard work of moderating and testing Google's platforms are ge…

Totally agree. Tech salary bubble is going to burst soon. As a software engineer myself, I've already started looking for a plan B.

Found anything good? I’ve had a few ideas over the years, but they all involve expensive school I’d need an high salary to even afford.

Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

By that logic, Sundar's pay is completely justified, as well as the pay cuts for Software Engineers, as more and more people become software engineers every day and available pool of workers continues to increase.

You don’t think they could find a competent CEO for, say, $100M?

You don't think you could find a competent software engineer for $80k?

Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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Google’s board has spoken, and the price of their stock today matters more than the company’s future.

If I was an employee who cared about Google’s vision, or what other services they could offer the world, the I’d probably be angry at the squandered opportunity too.

Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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Got to give it to Larry Page and Sergey Brin for having their cake and also eating it. They control ~51% of voting power with shares thanks to owning ~85% of class B shares. They have had the benefit of someone else running the company for 8 years - and increasing the value of it - and now, when things are not looking great, it’s Sundar Pichai who gets the blame, and the focus on his compensation: and not those who s…

Isn't taking the blame part of why CEOs get paid millions of dollars? 226 of them in this case. Pichai signed up for it and is objectively a winner too.

I’ll take some blame for $226m.

What you’ve said is nonsensical. Being the victim of some harsh words forgotten the next day while never having to work another day in your life is not any kind of responsibility.

Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

#68

So if they paid him 0$ they could have kept 500-1,000 out of those 12,000 employees? And that's assuming none of his pay was redistributed to any of the employees they kept. That's the thing with these gigantic numbers, they always look really impressive, but when you divide them by the actual number of employees involved it's not a huge per-employee benefit. Not saying it's fair, just that if you stare starry eyed a…

Were you trying to say 500-1000 of the employees isn't a huge number?

It's roughly 4%. I would not call 4% of anything huge.

Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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While I agree that CEOs are overpayed, I think the same applies to software engineers. Software Engineering has been a pay/perk bubble for years that was due for a correction, and like when Elon cut the free gourmet lunches and coffees for Twitter staff, I'm sure the Google engineers will survive. Meanwhile Google's "raters", the army of workers who do the hard work of moderating and testing Google's platforms are ge…

Software engineers are the only highly paid professionals that can convince themselves they are worth less than the going market rate. Not sure i've seen this common sentiment in banking, law, medicine, real estate, or high $ sales.

Re: Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

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post #29

What is the actual point of giving anyone $226m in pay? How would that motivate them to deliver any more..? Ratio of CEO:staff pay at 1000:1!

Why does Buffett get up and go to work in the morning?

Certainly not because he needs to work for a living, or for anything at all.
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