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Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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I'd really love for Mozilla to focus on actually... you know... building a web browser. There are 1,000's of issues firefox needs to improve, from integrating native gnome-keyring support, to performance, to porting to rust, to... Let me PM or run Mozilla for a year. We won't buy any more companies, and we're going to focus on engineering.

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Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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Because I expect Microsoft and Google to build more features for advertisers to target me, and Apple to build more features that lock me into their ecosystem. I expect better from Mozilla.

If history is any indicator, why are you still expecting anything different from Mozilla in 2023? Same shit, different year.

Because I let my nostalgia of 2004 get the best of me. And as much as I may gripe about their loss of focus, or their lagging behind in certain areas, I still appreciate them for the good things they do (e.g. fingerprint resisting, containers) and for the potential that they still have—even today—to implement user-focused improvements in their browser.

They may not lean into it as much as I'd like, but they still do better than Google or Microsoft in this regard.

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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Market share is not always indicative of execution. There is a reasonable argument that their browser market share decreasing or not growing should prompt diversification of their business rather than doubling down on something that is not showing great returns on investment.

I am not saying that is always indicative of execution but I don't think Mozilla has any indicative of good execution? Hey, they invented a new programming language to reengineer the browser. The programming language is very succesful and it is growing in market share but Firefox continues to be written in C++. IMHO there is a room for innovation in this space, long term but you can see if this happenning observing t…

> Firefox continues to be written in C++

The amount of Rust code in Firefox is pretty substantial, and growing. Did you expect an instant rewrite?

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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I’m hoping that Mozilla has a secret plan to extend Fakespot beyond just shopping and to become the killer app for distinguishing all AI generated content. May not even be possible to achieve, but that would be a worthy goal for Mozilla.

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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What state is that? I’ve been very satisfied with FF over the past 5 years.

no print feature in over 5 years. How can a browser not implement print? (on android) They removed it, then claimed they were working on it, and shut down every single github issue about it

This one got me recently, and the workaround that saved me was the save-as-pdf option hidden behind the "share" icon. Thankfully it uses the print stylesheet specified by the website.

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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If history is any indicator, why are you still expecting anything different from Mozilla in 2023? Same shit, different year.

Because I let my nostalgia of 2004 get the best of me. And as much as I may gripe about their loss of focus, or their lagging behind in certain areas, I still appreciate them for the good things they do (e.g. fingerprint resisting, containers) and for the potential that they still have—even today—to implement user-focused improvements in their browser. They may not lean into it as much as I'd like, but they still do…

Microsoft has the potential to make Windows 11 UX great. They made it worse than 10 by removing functionality that's existed for years.

Will Microsoft do it just because the potential exists? No.

Mozilla CEO takes a $3m salary and their biggest earner by many magnitudes is a search partnership with Google. Nothing is going to change with how they treat Firefox at a consumer-level until they need to man the battle stations with a rugpull on losing that partnership.

"Why would they lose it?" AI happened and the current economic climate means Google is reducing spending by killing things that don't bring tangible value.

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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I'd really love for Mozilla to focus on actually... you know... building a web browser. There are 1,000's of issues firefox needs to improve, from integrating native gnome-keyring support, to performance, to porting to rust, to... Let me PM or run Mozilla for a year. We won't buy any more companies, and we're going to focus on engineering.

I suspect Mozilla is large enough that they can do more than one thing at once. Some finance and legal people spending time on an acquisition is not the reason they haven't integrated gnome-keyring.

Firefox is behind on general web support compared to any other browser. That's not just weird APIs like WebUSB and WebSerial and WebGPU, but also CSS things. It's almost as bad as Safari, except it's broken in very different areas.

There's plenty to improve. On Android there's the whole extension mess (and tons of other quality of life improvements), on desktop Firefox could use some proper PWA support (even Safari has that implemented well now), Spidermonkey is still the slowest mainstream Javascript engine out there, and Chrome's process sandboxing has some features that Firefox is yet to implement if at all. Firefox users on Gnome on Linux are a subset of a subset of a subset, that's hardly important, but "Firefox is slower than all the other browsers" is.

Mozilla cares more about their charity programs than they do about their browser (that's why you can't directly donate to Firefox, only to Mozilla). Maybe this acquisition is a way to add a new revenue stream, though I doubt it'll matter much because I've never seen AI detection that actually works. I hope this was a smart move, but I fear this will end up as one of those buttons everyone disables in the default toolbar, like Pocket has become.

Mozilla has also fired 250 people during the pandemic, so somehow coming up with the money to buy a company feels a little jarring when dev capacity still hasn't recovered.

Re: Fakespot Is Acquired by Mozilla

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I'd really love for Mozilla to focus on actually... you know... building a web browser. There are 1,000's of issues firefox needs to improve, from integrating native gnome-keyring support, to performance, to porting to rust, to... Let me PM or run Mozilla for a year. We won't buy any more companies, and we're going to focus on engineering.

On the contrary Mozilla correctly anticipates that low quality AI generated content will increasingly ruin web experience and has therefore correctly chosen to invest in technology that will combat that.
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