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The A.I. business influencer guys must be stopped

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Re: The A.I. business influencer guys must be stopped

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Post by JohnFen »

fwlr wrote: post #48

Not to be dismissive but it seems like a skill issue to me. I have the thread emoji muted, that does 90% of the work. I had to click “don’t show me this guy” ( not “don’t show me this topic”) on maybe half a dozen that slipped through, and then it seems like the algorithm got the message. Just curate better and the problem goes away.

> Just curate better and the problem goes away.

This need to constantly curate is what made me leave Twitter years ago (well before Musk bought it). It's just too much work too little reward.

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Post by JohnFen »

paulpauper wrote: post #32

AI hype is the successor to crypto hype, which in 2022 flamed out. I think at least AI has more practical applications compared to crypto and is not nearly as scammy. Many investors lost huge money with crypto; I do not see the same for AI.

Yes, LLMs have practical applications. But the crypto-style hype that is happening is bringing a reek to the space that it doesn't deserve. There's a real risk that AI will end up being viewed through the same lens cryptocurrency is viewed with now, regardless of practical applications.

> Many investors lost huge money with crypto; I do not see the same for AI.

Oh I absolutely do see this coming. The difference between this and cryptocurrency is that the amount and scope of the damage won't be as wide-ranging.

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Post by officeplant »

poulsbohemian wrote: post #29

"One of the handful of things Twitter still has going for it is that it’s the main place people are talking about A.I" This is a really strange way to start an article, because I can tell you that here in small town middle of nowhere America, even the old guys down at the VFW hall are talking about AI. I can't get through a full day without someone at random (at Rotary, in the grocery checkout line...) talking about…

I can keep track of what grifts have made it to the main stream purely by my boss asking me if I'd heard/made money on X yet. As if I'd be here if I made bank off of crypto/nfts/etc. He's in his 70s now and keeps asking for ideas on making it big because the timeshares he bought of some man made island resort didn't play out.

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Post by marstall »

fdgsdfogijq wrote: post #11

Sometimes I am jealous of these people. They arent doing the corporate grind, and they arent even really doing the startup grind. They are shilling stuff on the internet and avoiding spending their lives working. I know a few, they live great, though frugal lives. I go to my job at prestigious big Co and often wonder who the smart one is, me or them

you. definitely you.

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Post by rchaud »

Stuff like this is why people want to block Blue badges.

But hucksters on Twitter have been around since well before the acquisition. AI is just the latest snake oil they're selling. Previously it was NFTs, blockchain, dropshipping, 101-level coding 'tips'.

Social media algorithms have always embraced bullshittery. There's a reason why "influencer" is a 4 letter word.

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Post by rchaud »

fdgsdfogijq wrote: post #11

Sometimes I am jealous of these people. They arent doing the corporate grind, and they arent even really doing the startup grind. They are shilling stuff on the internet and avoiding spending their lives working. I know a few, they live great, though frugal lives. I go to my job at prestigious big Co and often wonder who the smart one is, me or them

Have you heard of "non-sponsored influencers"? They're your average person who starts creating videos shilling brands, for free, in the hope that they'll get picked up for a real endorsement deal.

You may know one of the ones that made it for real, but I see a lot of delusional hopefuls simply copying what the others are doing and hoping to strike it rich.

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Post by rchaud »

nluken wrote: post #33
CharlesW wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not dumb to sell shovels during a gold rush. And the thing is, almost anybody can do it.

These guys aren't so much selling shovels as selling advice on which shovel to buy despite the fact they've never dug a hole before.

Sounds like my e-book: "How to Create a Dropshipping video course". Buy now! /s

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Post by rchaud »

fwlr wrote: post #48

Not to be dismissive but it seems like a skill issue to me. I have the thread emoji muted, that does 90% of the work. I had to click “don’t show me this guy” ( not “don’t show me this topic”) on maybe half a dozen that slipped through, and then it seems like the algorithm got the message. Just curate better and the problem goes away.

There are hundreds if not thousands of people doing this exact hustle. You'll be spending a lot of time trying to decapitate that hydra.

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Post by bluefirebrand »

notahacker wrote: post #60
scarmig wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would put good money on the bet that there's at least one influencer primarily using ChatGPT to generate their content. Spam of all sorts is the one category that ChatGPT can do with cheap, superhuman performance today.

Oh I'm 100% sure ChatGPT can do it brilliantly, I just suspect that most of the people trying to be 'AI influencers' (i) actually enjoy coming up with middlebrow takes on AI, reading others' middlebrow takes on AI and monitoring their timeline for retweets and (ii) lack the tech skills to set the ChatGPT API up to tweet on their behalf...

Just think, you could make months of blog posts about your journey to get ChatGPT to generate pro-AI tweets for you.

And then you can follow that up with your journey to get ChatGPT to give you the code for a system that hits CharGPT and then posts the tweet automatically.

And then you go silent and the money keeps rolling in because ChatGPT is grifting your viewers on your behalf now!

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Post by notahacker »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #69
notahacker wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh I'm 100% sure ChatGPT can do it brilliantly, I just suspect that most of the people trying to be 'AI influencers' (i) actually enjoy coming up with middlebrow takes on AI, reading others' middlebrow takes on AI and monitoring their timeline for retweets and (ii) lack the tech skills to set the ChatGPT API up to tweet on their behalf...

Just think, you could make months of blog posts about your journey to get ChatGPT to generate pro-AI tweets for you. And then you can follow that up with your journey to get ChatGPT to give you the code for a system that hits CharGPT and then posts the tweet automatically. And then you go silent and the money keeps rolling in because ChatGPT is grifting your viewers on your behalf now!

When you put it like that, it sounds almost tempting.
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