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Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by guerrilla »

almost_usual wrote: post #34

I’ve had visual snow since I can remember. I went to the eye doctor as a kid and they ran a bunch of tests which resulted in “it’s nothing”. Dabbled in psychedelics pretty heavily in college. Think it was one bad trip that ended it for me. Dealt with some major anxiety for a couple years afterwards but eventually I went back to ‘normal’. Visual snow never got worse, I did get “seeing stars” though which I never had p…

> Visual snow never got worse, I did get “seeing stars” though which I never had prior to doing psychedelics.

Seeing stars can have other causes like the blood vessels in your eyes being messed up. You can get them from, for example, being too hungover or tired. Not saying it's that, but it could be totally unrelated.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by CyberRabbi »

The popular LSD and psychadelic advocacy online and elsewhere is an expression of the mainstream ideology. The foundation of our collective ideology tells us these drugs should have some profound life-altering and improving effect. Obviously, when examined critically, the premise is ridiculous on its face. Everyone I know who regularly does these types of drugs is not really doing much else with their lives. As for Steve Jobs, he was not a regular LSD user, he was a baby boomer who bragged about using it to make himself seem unique or different, like many of his generation.

You see a similar sort of popular collective delusion with people who claim Cannabis cures cancer or other disease. Sorry but hard no. There is no such thing as "Medical Marijuana." It's simply marketing and propaganda to get the public into associating virtue with Cannabis use, with the end goal of eventually changing policy.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by dvt »

I've had "visual snow" since forever, but it's very mild, and more acute when light exposure delta is high (e.g. turn on/off a light). I suspect it's because I also suffer from migraines, which started around puberty, though I think it's at least partly genetic because both my mom and my sister also get them. I used to get a very bad one at least once a week, as in, couldn't even get out of bed. Since I started drinking coffee (late 20s), it helped my migraines out tremendously.

My migraines (which is a condition closely related to seizures) are partly why I've always said "no" to any form of psychedelic substance; just seems needlessly dangerous.

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Post by willio58 »

slibhb wrote: post #49
PuppyTailWags wrote: post #24

I think it's useful to consider this blog post as an anecdotal experience of someone who had a significant, traumatic experience with LSD for which they were entirely socially unprepared for even when those those experiences seemed to be known among those who take LSD (no one expressed surprise or confusion at their condition in their group). There is plenty of questions to ask here: why didn't this person's friends…

I've noticed this pattern where "anecdote" is deployed when someone disagrees with some point another person is making. But would you be chiming in here about "anecdotes" if this was a post by someone claiming acid helped them?

Anecdotes are fine for story telling but have no place in debates.

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Post by PKop »

snovymgodym wrote: post #5

Had a somewhat similar experience. Irritating how harmless and positive psychedelics and cannabis are made out to be in popular culture in spite of the issues like these that can cause.

It's a way for people that want to be addicts to rationalize their addictions, and should be mercilessly shamed out of being so popular.

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Post by code51 »

I find it so ironic that on one hand, we are placing great value on achieving consciousness with artificial intelligence and yet, we place so little value on our own.

If this "consciousness" thing is so hard to get, then why do we try our best to get rid of it through alcohol, recreational drugs etc ?

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by colordrops »

code51 wrote: post #42
colordrops wrote: post #20

Isn't it true for even over the counter drugs and even foods that they can fuck you up if you are predisposed to have an issue with the substance? Why would LSD be any different. It's like getting mad at people promoting peanuts because some people die if they eat them.

You're surely joking when comparing LSD to foods, right? Please name one single food that can bring down all your psychological defence mechanisms in one go.

I gave an example. Peanuts. They can literally choke you out.

Ciprofloxacin can ruin your life. Acetaminophen can ruin your life. Aspertame can ruin your life.

The point is that for every substance there will be someone out there predisposed to have a reaction to it. That's not a problem with the substance, and people shouldn't stop recommending it, as the author suggests.

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Post by x86x87 »

macleginn wrote: post #48

Thousands, if not millions, of people in India and increasingly across the world take Indian ginseng aka ashwagandha for anxiety and other psyche problems. My wife ate several kilos of the stuff during her BSc programme; it helped her with exams and general stress. At some point I was very anxious for a perfectly valid exogenous reason, and she recommended I take it. Three pills in (recommended daily dose, taken over…

Lol. Tylenol is over the counter and the wrong dose can literary kill your liver.

Do you have links to those studies? I'm curious. I've tried Ashwagandha and stopped as it seemed to make me more anxious but YMMV.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by ianbutler »

slibhb wrote: post #49
PuppyTailWags wrote: post #24

I think it's useful to consider this blog post as an anecdotal experience of someone who had a significant, traumatic experience with LSD for which they were entirely socially unprepared for even when those those experiences seemed to be known among those who take LSD (no one expressed surprise or confusion at their condition in their group). There is plenty of questions to ask here: why didn't this person's friends…

I've noticed this pattern where "anecdote" is deployed when someone disagrees with some point another person is making. But would you be chiming in here about "anecdotes" if this was a post by someone claiming acid helped them?

No and the reason is I have seen far more anecdotes about good trips than bad, which pushes me to believe that is the norm. And by far more I mean in my life I have seen maybe a 10:1 ratio. There would have to be a flood of negative reports over a period of years to tilt me in the opposite direction to counteract that.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by willio58 »

de6u99er wrote: post #57
jerglingu wrote: post #22

Had a similar experience, but with the much more tame marijuana. It was a 6-hour long panic attack for me. Similar to the author of this, I read for years of how "the only way it could ever harm you is if you were crushed by 100 lbs of it" on sites like Reddit. It wasn't until after getting high that I heard about marijuana amplifying stress tendencies in a minority of people. I've always been high strung, and maybe…

As someone who has been consuming lots of marijuana in the past 25 years, my recommendation is to not consume marijuana when in a bad mood or in stressful situations. I see drugs (including alcohol) as mood amplifiers.

This is a great way to use drugs. Even coffee! If you have coffee when you have anxiety you’ll be in store for much more anxiety
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