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Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started

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Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started

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Step 1: convince your main competitor to piss of its entire user base. Step 2: ? Step 3: get Obama and other major celebrities to establish you as a media company brand.

Step 2 probably has a bunch of stuff, but includes:

They posted content using fake accounts to stimulate adoption.

To my recollection they allowed a lot of skeevy (illegal and/or immoral) content to proliferate.

I think they probably ran at a loss for a long time; leaning heavily on volunteer personnel.

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Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started

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I ask myself on a weekly basis when old.reddit.com will disappear. And there is nothing more cruel than the new Reddit, UI-wise. Even Twitter's "threading" of conversations appears to make more sense, even though I have still not figured out how it works.

I know some people at Reddit and sadly it's definitely going to happen.

maybe plugins can restore the old look and functionality?

Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started

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I ask myself on a weekly basis when old.reddit.com will disappear. And there is nothing more cruel than the new Reddit, UI-wise. Even Twitter's "threading" of conversations appears to make more sense, even though I have still not figured out how it works.

The 'new' Reddit has so much wasted space and bloat. The old one is slick and optimized for content display. It's also an eyesore. Garish colors, weird icons...just horrible in every way. It has been many years and I still cannot bring myself to use it.

Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started

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Step 1: convince your main competitor to piss of its entire user base. Step 2: ? Step 3: get Obama and other major celebrities to establish you as a media company brand.

One take I heard is Digg was actively combating vote manipulation, while on Reddit it was easy to get RonPaul/etc content onto the homepage. So the migration was memed to some extent.

Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started

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This is a nice time to remind everyone that Aaron Swartz died while fighting for a freer internet and a freer world. He is, by Paul Graham, considered a founder of reddit but is rarely mentioned in these stories. Instead of trying to go for broke and grind till he could cash out, Aaron put his skin in the game for what the internet should become. Which gets more relevant everyday that the internet megacorps consolida…

It'd be nice if they'd stop trying erase Aaron's work on Reddit but that's been underway for some time, and I'm not even really sure why. I can't fathom an end-goal where marginalizing Aaron's contributions is a benefit to them.

To my recollection Aaron Swartz was anti-establishment; the reddit he was part of was grass-roots, laissez-faire, no holds barred, ... whilst reddit today is part of the media establishment, much more top-down, heavily modded and censored.

Reddit in the post digg-exodus days seemed like a veneer of 'news' covering one of _the_ seedy underbellies of the web. Not only, but to a large extent a hive of scum and villainy; not a chan-site but similarly lacking in societal respectability.

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Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started

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Reddit is such a cesspool of low-quality commentary and rage-baiting. The front page/popular category is particularly egregious.

I assume at least some portion of the front page (or /r/popular) has been for sale for a long time. For example, sports leagues like NBA or marketers trying to make viral videos for brands or new movie/TV show releases.

Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know some people at Reddit and sadly it's definitely going to happen.

I hope the Fediverse replacement for Reddit, Lemmy, will pick up in popularity before old.reddit dies. It makes a lot of sense since each "subreddit" could be its own server.

Are servers hosted on fediverse open to being indexed by search engines otherwise I doubt it can replace reddit. Reddit did discussion threads , subs, and searchable results from search engines really well. It was a really great version of "forums" . I am not sure fediverse or Discord can do such things.

Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started

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post #38

I ask myself on a weekly basis when old.reddit.com will disappear. And there is nothing more cruel than the new Reddit, UI-wise. Even Twitter's "threading" of conversations appears to make more sense, even though I have still not figured out how it works.

old.reddit.com and it's imminent disappearance underscores that there is a still need for a user-centric web browser designed to combat user-hostile web ui. Here are some features I think the browser should have by default (without plugins) Short feature list: - Overwrite website code and display a user-hostile UI of popular sites like reddit/Facebook (this warrants a whole list in itself) - offer a reader view of an…

> offer a reader view of any website including pay walled websites

Not really possible if a paywalled website is a true paywall. Many paywalled websites don't even expose their content to crawlers.

I also think that, philosophically, the majority of the user base being able to bypass paywall isn't healthy for the Internet. It will only make content quality decrease and advertisement aggression increase. You can see this effect come into play with pages that use anti-adblocking tools, where you can't see anything until you disable ad blocking.

> Tab freeze for tabs not in focus - save CPU and battery energy

Chrome energy saver mode? Safari seems to effectively do this, tabs seem to be pretty dead until you are using them. I would also ask what kind of need there is to save battery life above and beyond present technology. Modern laptops sold on the market now can be in a web browser for an entire workday (e.g., ASUS Zenbook 13 OLED, any MacBook M1/M2).

Almost everything on this list is already available with browser extensions or existing browsers.

Re: Listen to Steve Huffman tell the story of how Reddit got started

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post #5

this is good timing, as we're witnessing in real time how reddit is ending right now :)

How is reddit ending? In general it seems they waited for enough critical mass before instituting all the content policies that would kill smaller sites. And while digg's implosion had reddit as an alternative, in 2023 who is the alternative to reddit?

the critical mass might have to do without power-users (sucks for all the subreddits people go to for technical help!) and moderators, as the api changes affect tools and apps mods use a lot.

as for implosion, it might be more of a twitter thing, slowly people will get enough and leave. sometimes you don't need a new destination, but you just stop by the site anymore.

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