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Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Post by KMnO4 »

george88b wrote: post #47

I am not sure why Tailscale is always on Hackernews. For example, Twingate allows 5 free users and supports more complex use case without requiring a subnet router. They generally have stronger enterprise features as well.

Tailscale is really a winner for simple use cases. For example, these are the steps to access my home server from anywhere in the world with my phone:

1. docker run tailscale/tailscale 2. Use the link provided to login and link my server 3. Download the Tailscale app 4. Login

And if you're using a server OS like Unraid, you don't even need to do the first step; just install it through the GUI. It's widely available and accessible.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Post by candiddevmike »

raggi wrote: post #56
candiddevmike wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Instead, we hope that by being transparent about our security practices and helping ensure that Headscale remains compatible with Tailscale, you will either use Tailscale, or host Headscale for your own personal needs. You love Headscale for personal use? What would you say to someone looking at Headscale for their business over Tailscale?

Rock on!

> Rock on!

That's a really odd response, to be honest. I was expecting something around features you only get with Tailscale, scaling issues with Headscale, something to sell me on paying $6 a user.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Post by brewdad »

skrebbel wrote: post #46
modernpacifist wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place. - Access my services/servers at home from anywhere in the world. Friendly mobile apps as well that allow the same. - In cloud environments (for work and fun), don't even bother provisioning public IPs and having to deal with those firewall rules, just use Tailscale - https://tailscale.co…

> Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place. Can you elaborate? What do your parents need tailscale for? I mean my parents have internet purely by the telco dropping a router at their place and it just works, what is my family missing?

Best guess is OP is hosting files or services that are shared with less tech-savvy parents. Similar to our setup. My son is away at college but still wants access to his music and movie collection on our NAS at home along with some other services. He setup a Tailscale connection and everyone is happy. I don't have to manage any of it and he doesn't have to work around the school's firewall and network architecture.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Post by vineyardmike »

morley wrote: post #13

I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

I use it personally and at work.

Personally: - I have a few raspberry Pis and PCs around the house. This lets me SSH into them for maintenance/etc. It’s also good for projects and stuff to use their DNS. Eg I can use “http://nas/photos” to get to my photo library instead of an IP address. No TLD is kinda cool (it’s just a net search group afaik so reproducible without them) but very memorable for the family. I’ve also gone as far as to embed their library in a go project I made - it means the same IP address and host name regardless of where the binary is running which is cool. This also means the binary knows who is who when accessing the website it hosts. The ease of doing this makes me feel like projects like OpenZiti bay be the future of zero trust and networking - embed the security into the code via a library and get all the global routing you need for free.

Work: I work at a tiny company (5 of us). We do IOT stuff, and we have a lab with a bunch of equipment, mostly controlled by Raspberry Pis or similar. We’re small so we work in a private room in a coworking space. We use tailscale to manage the RPIs and keep consistent IP addresses when we don’t have control over the overall network. We also run some internal stuff in AWS over tailscale (eg our staging servers etc). It’s hands down the easiest option to onboard people too. It lets us access equipment from home if needed, and it’s super lightweight compared to other VPNs I’ve used.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Post by thefz »

hjuutilainen wrote: post #3

I just got an email about this and here’s what they say: > Your plan is unaffected and you can continue to use the Personal Pro plan as you normally do. However, Tailscale's new Free plan includes nearly everything that Tailscale has to offer for up to 3 users on a custom domain and 100 devices. This plan may be more aligned with how you use Tailscale. Go to the Billing page in the admin console to review your option…

Exactly the same for me. Awesome company.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Post by thefz »

morley wrote: post #13

I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

I don't expose anything to the internet and use it to access my Synology or my Unraid NAS, to stream Plex music to Plexamp, to check my home network when I am away, and in some cases I have used it to circumvent filtering Proxies by tunneling HTTP/HTTPS.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Post by christop »

gilbertbw wrote: post #40

I'm a big Tailscale proponent, implementing it at work in early 2020. But for us I'm not sure this is great news. We have a small Tailnet of 5 users, paying $30 for the Team plan. If we went for Starter we'd save $18, but loose a lot of cool things Tailscale has come out with recently that we have been looking at, like user/group level ACLs, ACL Gitops,Tailscale SSH and Tailscale Funnel. Alternatively we'd pay $36 fo…

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I'm kinda confused about things like SSH and Funnel being moved to the Premium tier.

It feels a little odd that the Free tier lets you use Premium features indefinitely, but as soon as you get more colleagues onboard, you lose those features.

Unless you're looking carefully at the pricing page, you'd miss that Starter has many fewer features compared to Free.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Post by morley »

thefz wrote: post #66
morley wrote: post #13

I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

I don't expose anything to the internet and use it to access my Synology or my Unraid NAS, to stream Plex music to Plexamp, to check my home network when I am away, and in some cases I have used it to circumvent filtering Proxies by tunneling HTTP/HTTPS.

Wow, I didn't realize they produce a Synology package!

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Post by andrew-d »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #44

What... Benefit does tailscale offer over zerotier? 1. It doesn't have accounts so you have to use gmail or Microsoft sso and risk being fucked that way.

As of about a month ago, you can also sign up to Tailscale with any OIDC-compatible identity provider, so if you don't want to use Gmail or Microsoft you can self-host your own!

https://tailscale.com/blog/custom-oidc/

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