Not for long. Wait until this greedy virus called humans comes along. Takes everything without having the slightest clue of the long-term implications. All the intellect makes them think they are god-like yet all of the creations look like Frankenstein.
Vast new stores of water reported on the moon
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#62Not for long. Wait until this greedy virus called humans comes along. Takes everything without having the slightest clue of the long-term implications. All the intellect makes them think they are god-like yet all of the creations look like Frankenstein. Lol
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#64It’s incredible to think about the implications of these new findings on the moon’s water content. Not only could it potentially aid in future space missions and colonization efforts, but it also raises questions about the moon’s formation and history. The fact that the water in the glass beads is of solar wind origin adds another layer of complexity to the moon’s story.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
prison mining colony. but seriously, it could be used as a manufacturing and industrial hub for deep space operations like asteroid mining. think about it like this. if we can manufacture things on the moon we can launch things for almost nothing into both earth orbit and the outer solar system due to how the orbital mechanics work. this means we can build a million probes and send them all over the solar system, man…
Turtles all the way down. “Why do we need a space station?” “As practice for getting to the Moon!” “What can we do on the Moon?” “Build spaceships for getting to the asteroid belt!” “Why do we need to get to the asteroid belt?” “So we can make components for the Mars colonies!” “Why do we need a Mars colony?” …
Because we are well over 75% through the window this planet can support life and are headed towards a complete extinction event with little chance of survival?
Life has been here for ~4.2bn years, has another good 500-800m years left until our carbon cycles grind to a halt.
"Why do we need a space station?"
"To save all life on Earth"
I've grown rather disenfranchised with most ecological movements (outside of the Whole Earth branch). Given what we've learned about our planet in the last few decades, and our current understanding of where this planet is heading, it's hard to interpret their arguments as anything other than advocating for letting all life on Earth die a slow death over the next 1Bn years.
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#66Moonbase when?
When they find oil, or cobalt, or rare earths. We have enough water on earth, we don't need the one on the moon. /s You might remember, Columbus did not go to America for a vacation.
Actually moon water can be quite valuable. Because it requires so much less energy to escape lunar gravity, if you have water, and if you can split it into hydrogen and oxygen, you can make a very effective gas station for rockets going to Mars and further and get a little respite from the tyranny of the rocket equation.
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#67It's only a matter of time now before we get the first craft brewery and tap room on the Moon.
I am still waiting on them to put casks on a space ship, put it in orbit, and ship it back to Earth, like Linie Aquavit crossing the equator twice.[0] Space Aquavit (or Rumakvavit, if you will) will surely be a thing.
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#68I wonder if there are locations along the dark side / light side border, where some of this water boils off during the 'daytime' heat, and then freezes again during darkness, and is just sitting on the surface as a fine layer of frozen crystals? I know there in very little atmosphere, but maybe just enough to hold a little water vapor? Maybe over time this would allow more accumulation in permanently shaded parts of…
Reminder that the moon does not have a "dark side". This is a misnomer. The back of the moon gets the same amount of sunlight as the front. Unless you mean the side which is not presently illuminated. Water could freeze there but it would boil off again when the sun lights it up again. However there are craters at the poles that never experience sunlight, and water does accumulate in them. You don't need any atmosphe…
> Reminder that the moon does not have a "dark side". This is a misnomer.
It isn't. The side of the moon that cannot be seen from Earth is called the dark side of the moon. It's called that for the same reason that the Dark Ages are called dark: because we can't see them.
It is true that the dark side of the moon gets just as much sunlight as the light side does.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know, they used to say the same thing about big mountains, right? Here's a slightly older take on it from that era: """ People ask me, 'What is the use of climbing Mount Everest?' and my answer must at once be, 'It is of no use.' There is not the slightest prospect of any gain whatsoever. Oh, we may learn a little about the behaviour of the human body at high altitudes, and possibly medical men may turn our obser…
> """[...] What we get from this adventure is just sheer joy. And joy is, after all, the end of life. [...]""" (That's from George Mallory, for the curious.) For many who are climbing the highest mountains that sheer joy turns into literal end if life. Wikipedia is trying to collect a list of them [0]. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_died_clim...
Which is fine. As much as it's a cliché to say "they died doing what they loved", most people die in absolutely horrible circumstances. Death is death. I've had a few friends die mountaineering, BASE jumping, climbing etc. and once I've grieved I actually admit that they did, in reality, die doing what they loved. I may miss them, and call them selfish for engaging in dangerous activities, but I respect and admire the drive to push limits that border on the impossible. There are many more deaths that are purely senseless, easily preventable and just as tragic. No one other than the friends and family of those people seems to care or comment on the circumstances of those deaths.