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Primitive Asgard cells show life on the brink of complexity

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Re: Primitive Asgard cells show life on the brink of complexity

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1. It's strange that you've put quotes around something I didn't say. 2. I said a lot more than what you put quotes around, which explains the method of action. If you want more specific information, you'll have to engage enough with what I've already said to ask a more specific question. I won't waste my time explaining parts I've already explained and you've ignored.

You talk about the physical process, but not where the information came from. Information only comes from consciousness. If you think randomness created dna with a specific function I have a bridge to sell you

> Information only comes from consciousness.

Ah, there it is, the total nonsense I was expecting.

That's not even a coherent scientific claim: it's not provable or disprovable because you can't even clearly define half the words. You're just saying things with no evidence because they were told to you.

Next time, save everyone some time and just make your argument for creationism up front without asking questions as if you were interested in answers. This whole pretending to ask questions thing you did here was dishonest.

Bye.

Re: Primitive Asgard cells show life on the brink of complexity

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Ultimately this question is the question of why the universe isn't completely isotropic in all directions with a completely uniform distribution of matter and energy. To the best of our knowledge this is due to quantum effects at the beginning of time creating a temporary asymmetry whose resulting "sloshing" created everything more complicated than evenly-distributed hydrogen gas. Life on earth is the tiniest swirl o…

That is rather hand wavy and doesn't explain where the complexity in DNA comes from, you just swept that problem under the rug with a blanket explanation that lacks explanatory power.

"Complexity" is not a magic force that must be conserved. In any system that has both an energy gradient and a path for that energy to travel that is not isotropic, complexity will emerge as entropy increases. That holds whether the system in question is a pool of water with a bumpy downhill slope or an entire ecosystem.

https://theconversation.com/emergence-the-remarkable-simplic...

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