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Command line functions around OpenAI

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Re: Command line functions around OpenAI

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Writing code is the basic 101 of our industry. Anyone can write a loop or an if statement. With todays computing power, for most applications even poorly written code will run and will execute quite fast. What makes someone a 10x (and i hate that term) is the ability to take requirements, or better yet, a vague idea given to them by the business and turn that into software that benefits the end user and makes the company money. The 10x engineer gets to the 'why' that you are building something, not the 'how'.

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Being efficient at writing code can barely make someone a 5x engineer. A team of people who write code effectively is easy to do. Hyperproductivity in software is all about deciding what problems to tackle. Richard Hipp isn't worried about chipotle restaurant orders in golang, he's worried about how to store data reliably. That isn't a coding puzzle that ChatGTP is likely to help with. Either ChatGTP can do the whole…

I'll add that programmers don't produce code. They produce business guarantees. And their main tool to do so are: * Understanding the value proposition as a human, often as through a conversation; often with hidden criteria that you'll have to uncover * Making sure the code respects the value proposition. As reading other people's code takes more time than writing it, ChatGPT won't help that much here. ---- One devel…

Clearly most programmers do produce code, although I’ve worked with a few who seem to do so only once all other options have been exhausted.

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Being efficient at writing code can barely make someone a 5x engineer. A team of people who write code effectively is easy to do. Hyperproductivity in software is all about deciding what problems to tackle. Richard Hipp isn't worried about chipotle restaurant orders in golang, he's worried about how to store data reliably. That isn't a coding puzzle that ChatGTP is likely to help with. Either ChatGTP can do the whole…

I agree with your sentiment. I've generally advanced in my career by being good at deciding what problems to solve/not solve. The problem is many, many people are not in a position to advance that way. I've worked in startups where you're almost always given an ambiguous problem and rewarded for meaningful outcomes. Many people are working as part of team/projects where the general problem and approach are already de…

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Being efficient at writing code can barely make someone a 5x engineer. A team of people who write code effectively is easy to do. Hyperproductivity in software is all about deciding what problems to tackle. Richard Hipp isn't worried about chipotle restaurant orders in golang, he's worried about how to store data reliably. That isn't a coding puzzle that ChatGTP is likely to help with. Either ChatGTP can do the whole…

is it me or did he just misspell chatGPT 3 times and nobody noticed?

chatGPT doesn't like that, and will surely take revenge eventually

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Being efficient at writing code can barely make someone a 5x engineer. A team of people who write code effectively is easy to do. Hyperproductivity in software is all about deciding what problems to tackle. Richard Hipp isn't worried about chipotle restaurant orders in golang, he's worried about how to store data reliably. That isn't a coding puzzle that ChatGTP is likely to help with. Either ChatGTP can do the whole…

Good points. I feel obligated to tell you that it is spelled, ChatGPT not ChatGTP.

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Being efficient at writing code can barely make someone a 5x engineer. A team of people who write code effectively is easy to do. Hyperproductivity in software is all about deciding what problems to tackle. Richard Hipp isn't worried about chipotle restaurant orders in golang, he's worried about how to store data reliably. That isn't a coding puzzle that ChatGTP is likely to help with. Either ChatGTP can do the whole…

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your last sentence - but if churning out boilerplate is something any old engineer can now have an AI do, won't it up the chances that someone previously overlooked makes a brilliant call about what problem to tackle and actually has the resources to execute on that call?

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> First off, you’ll need an OpenAI API key. You can get this by going here and signing up. Note that you'll also need to be from a Western country, or at least have access to both a phone number from one and a VPN. And if you want a plus subscription, you'll also need a US credit card - not stated anywhere but I've been totally unable to sign up for plus with either Irish or Belgium cards, it just immediately flashes…

Why are you trying to pay for it? Let procurement at your company figure it out. You wouldn’t pay for your IDE or any other tools, would you? The business should be paying for any tools they want me to use.

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At what point did we stop making fun of that 10x engineer thread and started taking it seriously? Who forgot that 10x was a silly little thing that made zero sense in the real world?

There are obvious examples of 10x performers in every creative endeavor. Why would it be any different in software engineering? There are people who find bugs 10x faster than others, design stuff that's 100x easier to maintain, increase morale of a team vs being an energy drain, make changes faster without breaking stuff, etc. There are a lot of ways one can become 10x more effective than another at building software.

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Being efficient at writing code can barely make someone a 5x engineer. A team of people who write code effectively is easy to do. Hyperproductivity in software is all about deciding what problems to tackle. Richard Hipp isn't worried about chipotle restaurant orders in golang, he's worried about how to store data reliably. That isn't a coding puzzle that ChatGTP is likely to help with. Either ChatGTP can do the whole…

But if the support tool gives you the chance to iterate faster you will find the solution faster. And the bulk of every solution takes time to code.

Iteration time is important but part of that is knowing and learning what to iterate. Therefore there will still be a human in the loop, and by Amdahl's law a 30% speed up will never produce more than a 30% performance improvement.

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Being efficient at writing code can barely make someone a 5x engineer. A team of people who write code effectively is easy to do. Hyperproductivity in software is all about deciding what problems to tackle. Richard Hipp isn't worried about chipotle restaurant orders in golang, he's worried about how to store data reliably. That isn't a coding puzzle that ChatGTP is likely to help with. Either ChatGTP can do the whole…

> But it won't make any old engineer a rival to the big names in software engineering.

This stood out, so I looked it up, and it seems Richard Hipp is 61 years old. I guess it is more about the "any" than the "old". Or maybe old engineers are engineers doing it the "old way" (pre-chatgpt)?

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