It's a forum. On a mobile device. And called a messaging app. But it's a forum.
That sounds like a pretty great idea
Wavelength
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/sigh… How is being forced to be civil so outrageous that it’s worth even mentioning? The fixation on unmoderated freedom of speech is… obsessive. If they make a nice community for people who wanna talk to each other on those terms, good for them. Maybe it’s nice. Maybe it’s a heavily moderated echo chamber. Maybe it’s not for you, that’s fine. What do you get by standing on the sidelines going “that’s abhorrent! Dea…
> How is being forced to be civil so outrageous that it’s worth even mentioning?
Because 30 years ago the name of most people would, at best, appear in a local newspaper and they remained anonymous to the wider world.
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#63This whole article felt like a poor sales pitch. What wavelength offers: - Privacy focused (majority of users do not care about this, all modern chat apps have e2ee already) - Natively runs on Apple devices (without Android/Windows version, good luck getting a large user base, especially with 2 developers) - An AI chatbot (discord/slack already have this?) - A groups -> threads -> messages layout. Like they mentioned…
Plenty of services managed to build large user bases before being on Android. Instagram comes to mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Instagram
In tech years that was a different age. Early iphone years apps were novel and could easily gain traction just for being an app (like in 2023 how anything that talks to GPT4 gets people super excited)
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/sigh… How is being forced to be civil so outrageous that it’s worth even mentioning? The fixation on unmoderated freedom of speech is… obsessive. If they make a nice community for people who wanna talk to each other on those terms, good for them. Maybe it’s nice. Maybe it’s a heavily moderated echo chamber. Maybe it’s not for you, that’s fine. What do you get by standing on the sidelines going “that’s abhorrent! Dea…
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#65so I have to use slack at work, and my social interactions with friends, family and acquaintances are split across fb messenger, telegram, slack, discord, skype, WhatsApp, google chat, SMS, twitter dms and probably a few more I'm forgetting. on some of those platforms, I talk to as little as 1 single person. I don't understand what could possibly drive anyone to making a new messaging app at this point. Even if your…
https://www.beeper.com/ might offer an (expensive) solution for you.
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#66I get his beef with Slack, but this is just Discord for people who don't want to talk to Android users. What's his problem with Discord, other than uselessly calling it ugly? EDIT: I thought his "it's AI in a group chat" pitch sounded familiar, then I realized it's because it's a Discord blog post from a couple weeks ago: https://discord.com/blog/ai-on-discord-your-place-for-ai-wit...
It specifically says an Android app is on the roadmap.
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#67The app is free and it has no in-app purchase - how do they make money to support development?
What happened to "if you're not paying, you're the product"?
To register, you need to enter your phone number.
Even telegram now allows creating an account without a phone number, why is this still a requirement?
Thanks, but no thanks.
[downvote all you want, but we're complaining about facebook and others, while replacing them with a new, shiny social network, that has the same pitfalls, just because Gruber recommends it - we never learn]
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#69I know that this isn't the point of the article: > “something like Twitter but with real names and enforced civility, and with hashtags as Slack-like channels of interest.” but why is having real names on a chat app a good thing? Considering what's happening worldwide, anonymity online should always come first.
Also how do you "enforce civility"? That seems like an oxymoron.
Really any of the platforms can support it. Reddit has 'reddiquette' and all it would take is allow reporting on more civility-oriented offenses (like cursing, etc...).
Most social networks currently don't allow reporting low-level offenses so it's either a major violation or just ignored entirely. I would greatly prefer Reddit and Twitter if I could cut out large chunks of low quality posters.
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#70[flagged]
/sigh… How is being forced to be civil so outrageous that it’s worth even mentioning? The fixation on unmoderated freedom of speech is… obsessive. If they make a nice community for people who wanna talk to each other on those terms, good for them. Maybe it’s nice. Maybe it’s a heavily moderated echo chamber. Maybe it’s not for you, that’s fine. What do you get by standing on the sidelines going “that’s abhorrent! Dea…
Forced use of real names results in sexism and racism. It enables people to stalk and harass other users in real life. It's just a fundamentally bad idea.
There's room for a range of decisions about 'forced civility', but 'real names' is a bad idea.