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Reverse-engineering the Globus INK, a Soviet spaceflight navigation computer

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Re: Reverse-engineering the Globus INK, a Soviet spaceflight navigation computer

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Post by medo-bear »

mopsi wrote: post #60
medo-bear wrote: post #57

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at no point did i say it was fun, or something to be emulated. my point was that post war ussr was good at providing bare basics. i still think my assessment is correct and i think population growth in eastern europe during those times vs now suggest im right. also the fact remains that the soviets built A LOT especially considering that imperial russia was very much an agrarian country. pretty much all the concrete…

High population growth is associated with poverty, not prosperity. Economic growth of Eastern Europe pre-1991 and post-1991 tells everything you need to know. Countries that stagnated for 50 years went through a 10x growth in 30 years after the Soviet grip disappeared.

> High population growth is associated with poverty, not prosperity

nope. the us for example had a much higher population growth than eastern europe. every western country continues to experience population growth. the population growth pre 1990 in eastern europe was at a healthy 1%. stagnation and negative rates started in the 90s, which was hardly a period of prosperity in eastern europe

> Countries that stagnated for 50 years went through a 10x growth in 30 years after the Soviet grip disappeared

tell that to everyone that dreams about leaving and working in western europe

Re: Reverse-engineering the Globus INK, a Soviet spaceflight navigation computer

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Post by medo-bear »

mopsi wrote: post #59
medo-bear wrote: post #54

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also see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_oblasts_of_the_So...

Constitution of the USSR had freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press and many other rights unknown to its population, and severely punished when attempted to exercise those rights. North Korea is a pretty chill place too if you judge it only by its constitution.

except that those autonomous regions and republics very much existed. in some cases they formed the legal basis for independent states existing today: lithuania, estonia, ukraine, belarus, moldova, kazakhstan, etc. moreover their existence was dictated by communist ideology

   The socialist revolution may begin in the very near future. In that event the proletariat will be faced with the immediate task of capturing power, of expropriating the banks and of introducing other dictatorial measures. In such a situation, the bourgeoisie, and particularly intellectuals like the Fabians and the Kautskyists, will strive to disrupt and to hinder the revolution, to restrict it to limited democratic aims. While all purely democratic demands may—at a time when the proletarians have already begun to storm the bulwarks of bourgeois power—serve, in a certain sense, as a hindrance to the revolution, nevertheless, the necessity of proclaiming and granting freedom to all oppressed nations (i.e., their right to self-determination) will be as urgent in the socialist revolution as it was urgent for the victory of the bourgeois-democratic revolution, for example, in Germany in 1848, or in Russia in 1905
- V.I. Lenin

Re: Reverse-engineering the Globus INK, a Soviet spaceflight navigation computer

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Post by aivisol »

medo-bear wrote: post #57
aivisol wrote: post #56

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The cost part Quora gets really well, I have no problem with that. Since Soviet Roubles were worthless money anyway, it did not matter how much you paid for that. What it does not say though, is that housing supply was extremely poor. There was extreme lack of decent housing, and people could be easily on a 10+ year wait list (as my parents were). There was practically only government provided houses (e.g. apartments…

at no point did i say it was fun, or something to be emulated. my point was that post war ussr was good at providing bare basics. i still think my assessment is correct and i think population growth in eastern europe during those times vs now suggest im right. also the fact remains that the soviets built A LOT especially considering that imperial russia was very much an agrarian country. pretty much all the concrete…

> my point was that post war ussr was good at providing bare basics

My point is that USSR was providing bare basics for some and not for all. If you were member of CPSU or an informer, or of privileged nationality then your chances were much higher.

Re: Reverse-engineering the Globus INK, a Soviet spaceflight navigation computer

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Post by medo-bear »

aivisol wrote: post #63
medo-bear wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

at no point did i say it was fun, or something to be emulated. my point was that post war ussr was good at providing bare basics. i still think my assessment is correct and i think population growth in eastern europe during those times vs now suggest im right. also the fact remains that the soviets built A LOT especially considering that imperial russia was very much an agrarian country. pretty much all the concrete…

> my point was that post war ussr was good at providing bare basics My point is that USSR was providing bare basics for some and not for all. If you were member of CPSU or an informer, or of privileged nationality then your chances were much higher.

if by some you mean 90+% of population then yeah. otherwise you must have some statistics showing post-ww2 ussr as a leader in malnutrition, illiteracy, lack of medical care, and homelessness

in the mean time, here are some of my own

NUTRITION

   Approved For Release 2007/05117: CIA-RDP84B00274R000300150009-5 RFUTEPS 8 JANUARY 1983 5 PENGTH-DIET American and Soviet citizens eat about the same amount of food each day but the Soviet diet may be more nutritious. According to a CIA report released today both nationalities may be eating too much for good health.
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp84b00274r000...

LITTERACY

   The education system that emerged after the establishment of the Soviet Union in 1922 became internationally renowned for its successes in eradicating illiteracy and cultivating a highly educated population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_the_Soviet_Union

MEDICAL CARE

   Despite its drawbacks, the soviet healthcare system (Semashko model) is considered by the majority of Russian experts to have been one of the best in the world, because overall it met the requirements of quality, availability and provision of healthcare services, drugs and materials. After the collapse of the USSR, the health-care system was stagnant: funding was greatly limited, highly-skilled medical professionals emigrated, medical research came to a halt and manufacture of drugs and medical equipment declined dramatically.
https://www.mattioli1885journals.com/index.php/MedHistor/art...

HOUSING

https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/what-is-it-like-living...

Re: Reverse-engineering the Globus INK, a Soviet spaceflight navigation computer

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Post by sureglymop »

jacquesm wrote: post #23
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #22

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It's not nonsense that during the cold war the US & allies put sanctions and trade embargos in place for the USSR & Warsaw pact countries, similar how we have with Russia today, meaning their goods had a limited export market, plus they had restrictions on high tech imports as well leading to the Toshiba-Kongsberg scandal. Also, with the USD being the global reserve currency, the USSR & Co. were dependent on the USD…

It's nonsense because it wasn't 'the rest of the world' and it is nonsense because plenty of the fight came from within the USSR. Ignoring that makes it an utterly meaningless statement. And that's before we get into parties resisting the USSR because it started wars with them.

Hey I just want to let you know that in my original comment I never mentioned the USSR, nor any other state or empire. The promotion of widespread fear of a potential rise of communism did happen, hence the the "evil" in quotes. I never expressed my opinion about any political ideologies nor did I want to have a discussion about that.

Re: Reverse-engineering the Globus INK, a Soviet spaceflight navigation computer

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Post by Drblessing »

Stratoscope wrote: post #38
chiph wrote: post #25

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Check out the video below from Marc where he works on his Model 19 Teletype. Teletypes used a serial to parallel converter comprised of a solenoid and a multi-lobe camshaft that converted an incoming electrical signal (serial) into 5 individual bits (mechanical). Timing was important, so the motor on the Teletype had to be running at a known speed. You used a tuning fork that had a slot cut in it to look through to c…

On the Model 33 ASR that I learned programming with, we were taught to type CR LF RUBOUT at the end of each line when punching a tape. RUBOUT is like a no-op character which is ignored by the receiving end, so it gave a little extra time for both the carriage return and line feed to complete. RUBOUT is also how you would correct a typo on the tape: you would backspace the tape punch, hit RUBOUT, and then the characte…

This is so cool!
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