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Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Timing of public generative AI tools for Google seems to be pretty good. Late enough to let the cycle of stories on ChatGPT failures and "hacks" run its course, but still plenty early to catch up on the hype. No average person will consider Google to be catching up if this is the first place they're actually exposed to it.

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I'm still waiting for Hacker News to band together and simply start building an open model that does not require a corporate daddy like OpenAI, Microsoft, Baidu, Google, or anyone else. These models have no place being owned by corporations. The services that use these models are certainly up for grabs, but the models should be open. Who is trying to rally the community to this cause?

Have you set up the GitHub repository and done the initial commit yet? If you think “we” should take the first step, then go-ahead, take it. Lead the way.

I am being semi-snarky because often people talk about some grand ideas about things “we” should do, but rarely do those advocating for some utopian outcome actually do anything towards achieving it.

If it is to be, it’s up to me.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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It's not available to Workspace users, so I'm not going to bother trying it. As an aside, the name Bard is so low-effort and predictable, and a bit rubbish in my personal opinion.

> As an aside, the name Bard is so low-effort and predictable, and a bit rubbish in my personal opinion.

I would suggest the opposite. Choosing a good name is hard. You need to avoid naming conflicts, and ideally you have something short, easy to remember, pronounceable in many global language, semantic relationship to the name or at least avoiding poor connotations. It is much better than "New Bing"

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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In the Cold War, the U.S. built--with public funds--a series of heavy forging and extrusion presses [1].

I propose either a Heavy Press analog for AI. This could be as simple as tradable vouchers for compute time given to every American every year, vouchers which could be redeemed at any of the major cloud providers for one's own use or traded to a start-up or researcher. In exchange for using vouchers, your model has to be made semi-public (e.g. to other researchers, or through a secure channel to hinder foreign access)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Press_Program

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Anyone know what is the origin of the name Bard? Every time I see it I think "barf"

According to ChatGPT ;) Where does the word bard come from? > The word "bard" comes from the Scottish Gaelic word "bard", which means a poet or storyteller. The term was also used in medieval Ireland and Wales to refer to poets and musicians who were highly respected members of their society. In ancient times, bards were considered to be the keepers of history and tradition, and their songs and stories were often use…

And this nicely shows how LLMs don't do a good job yet of answering questions accurately. It's Scottish. No wait, it's Irish. Oh, wait it was used in Wales. Read the Wikipedia article to see where it got this mish-mash from.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Somehow I'll miss you Google. I'll miss the simpler times. You were a fine search engine and gmail was pretty great too, at the time. I was really excited to get an invite. Good memories.

We'll always remember you. Well.. not always, but for some time to come. Rest in peace.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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post #14

I'm still waiting for Hacker News to band together and simply start building an open model that does not require a corporate daddy like OpenAI, Microsoft, Baidu, Google, or anyone else. These models have no place being owned by corporations. The services that use these models are certainly up for grabs, but the models should be open. Who is trying to rally the community to this cause?

This isn’t folding@home. These models need as near to synchronous parameter updates as possible. You need a real facility to do this.

Yeah but we could definitely crowdsource enough money to make an extremely effective finetuned version of LLaMA. The challenge there is probably more about finding and cleaning data.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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I'm still waiting for Hacker News to band together and simply start building an open model that does not require a corporate daddy like OpenAI, Microsoft, Baidu, Google, or anyone else. These models have no place being owned by corporations. The services that use these models are certainly up for grabs, but the models should be open. Who is trying to rally the community to this cause?

Fully agree, we need a competitive (even if slightly behind) truly open initiative. The potential (and current) censorship of these models is an oligarch’s wet dream. With google vs DuckDuckGo etc you can see what websites are returned, and get a sense of the kind of authoritative sources used With this kind of tech, there’s no real way to know except by comparing precise prompts with one another. But if they’re all…

Bing Chat provides sources as in its response. I think that is not perfect, but directionally correct in terms of identifying what web results were used as authoritative sources.
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