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Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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One might argue self-driving cars are the serious safety issue, but maybe that's a controversial take.

Only if you don't think human driven cars are a safety issue.

False you can believe both!

Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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This seems to have nothing to do with face recognition, but rather misleading the AI to misidentify person as other objects in object recognition task. I like their mission, and I think the design look pretty good. My only concern is that this feature could cause self-driving vehicles to ignore the person wearing it, thus creating a serious safety issue.

Except it doesn't seem to work very well. A quick test using https://skybiometry.com/demo/face-detect/ On one of their model photos https://static.wixstatic.com/media/8fdf8a_54f20de903e848c783... shows easy facial detection.

With tech like GPT-4's vision abilities these techniques won't last long. Computers will soon have equal to human or superior skill understanding what is in an image combined with perfect memory of everyone or everything it has ever seen. Unless you have an invisibility cloak you will not be able to defeat it.

Surveillance today is a joke compared to surveillance tomorrow.

Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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post #35

This seems to have nothing to do with face recognition, but rather misleading the AI to misidentify person as other objects in object recognition task. I like their mission, and I think the design look pretty good. My only concern is that this feature could cause self-driving vehicles to ignore the person wearing it, thus creating a serious safety issue.

Neither lidar (what most companies use) nor occupancy networks (what Tesla uses) should be tricked by this.

Also I believe this will trick the classifier into thinking it's for example an elephant, not that there's nothing there.

Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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> Cap_able is aimed at a cultural and technological avant-garde that wants to be an exemplary leader in raising awareness of the importance of one's rights: a means to express oneself, one's identity and the values shared within a reference community.

Oh fuck off. Also whoever made that website should go to jail.

Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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okay, but i'm not going in for an elective surgery to have some of the pixels on my actual face flipped. i'd rather just wear a hat and other things to disrupt/block cameras from seeing my face

You misunderstand. The clothing on the linked website does not cover your face either. A fairly normal looking piece of clothing specifically designed to exploit the classification model could likely be used to "confuse" facial recognition rather than needing a piece of clothing with a garish design.

No I didn't misunderstand. I'm well aware of what clothing is and how it is used.

You described an adversarial image as one that has pixels flipped. That has nothing to do with clothing either, and had nothing to do with real time facial recognition as this "adversarial" clothing is meant to disrupt. So I just took your meaningless pixel flipping suggestion back to subject at hand.

Also, from the examples I've seen, facial recognition has no problems recognizing multiple faces in the same image. So I just don't understand the point of clothing like this when all it is going to do is present the software with a few additional things to consider, but not actually stop it from consider the actual face of the wearer of the clothing.

Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only if you don't think human driven cars are a safety issue.

False you can believe both!

I was saying believing self driving cars is a safety issue is only controversial if you also don't believe human driven cars are a safety issue. Basically I'm saying you should believe both are a safety issue.

Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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Sometimes I wonder how these things actually work (I am not talking of the actual cloth designs or their effectiveness, rather about how they manage to get this level of visibility).

This project has been posted nearly everywhere in the last 1-2 years, they made a kickstarter asking (I believe) for US$ 5,000, and they got US$ 5,306 by 36 backers:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/capable-design/manifest...

It was the thesis of the designer at the university, later joined by her sister as a marketer, she seemingly made a very good work at marketing, though thw whole stuff still looks more like an art project than anything else.

Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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> KNIT LONG SLEEVE HOODIE €420.00 Sale Price Isn’t that very expensive? Is their goal letting people avoid facial recognition, or is that just a marketing tactic and their goal is to maximize profits? > The algorithm on the textile hinders the object recognition software’s capabilities, causing it to not recognize the person wearing this garment. Instead, it recognizes the textile as nothing, a “zebra”, or a “giraffe…

Either way that would be preventing body detection not face detection.

I’m pretty sure it’s going to fine your face just fine

Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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> KNIT LONG SLEEVE HOODIE €420.00 Sale Price Isn’t that very expensive? Is their goal letting people avoid facial recognition, or is that just a marketing tactic and their goal is to maximize profits? > The algorithm on the textile hinders the object recognition software’s capabilities, causing it to not recognize the person wearing this garment. Instead, it recognizes the textile as nothing, a “zebra”, or a “giraffe…

I think it’s really art, and is priced like it.

When I hear "art" I think "scam".

But maybe it's just me…

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