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Khan Academy integrates GPT-4 as every student’s customized tutor

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Post by inductive_magic »

hoot wrote: post #37
misssocrates wrote: post #36

Can Khan Academy replace school at this point? If not, what are they missing?

I wonder what the point of school is even going to be at this point

a) a shared reference frame (mainly social)

b) stability/refuge for kids/adolescents from unstable families

c) interpersonal connections with experienced humans (opposed to isolated discovery)

d) pedagogy

that was its main purpose for a while now; most people learn complex concepts through youtube these days. an engineers/hackers ability to dive into topics on their own doesn't map to the requirements for the healthy development of a child.

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Post by the_af »

yarone wrote: post #8
BigCryo wrote: post #4

Reminds me of that science fiction story by Ray Bradbury called the veldt... Computers raise the kids

Another one that came to my mind: "The Fun They Had" by Asimov "Margie was thinking about how the kids must have loved it in the old days. She was thinking about the fun they had." http://web1.nbed.nb.ca/sites/ASD-S/1820/J%20Johnston/Isaac%2...

It's funny that you mention "The Fun They Had", because if you visit its Wikipedia page now, the summary looks written by a bot. It looks like "basic" English, only with a weird quality to it -- either written by someone whose grasp of language is very poor, or by ChatGPT. I'd say worse than ChatGPT actually: the sentences are short and almost mechanical. Go look at it.

The edit changing a way more human-sounding plot summary to this version was made on September 2022, in case anyone is wondering.

PS: if GPT derives much of its data from Wikipedia, and people start using GPT to write Wikipedia articles, I wonder what kind of strange feedback loop we're getting into.

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Post by beepbooptheory »

Sol- wrote: post #10

Given that learning will probably soon not be required anymore to live a successful life (AIs will do everything better than you), I guess such learning-as-a-hobby apps will be the remaining niche to entertain the humans on basic income. I wonder how many people will actually make use of it, though, and how many are instead content with being wireheaded by the various AI-based content apps that will appear, full with…

I don't know why comments like this take for granted "basic income" as like this inevitability. We currently let people all around the world die on the streets for not participating well enough in the economy. Why would this moment in history be any different? You think just because you get paid a lot right now, the guys in charge will make sure you are ok in the future? That is not really how this whole capitalism thing works unfortunately.. No amount of technology will save us from waged labor in itself, its simply the character of our labor which will change.

What you want is communism, and buddy, I'm with you!

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Post by davesque »

GPT-4 definitely seems to be doing better on a lot of benchmarks and that's impressive. But it still hallucinates facts and I don't think anyone really has a good understanding of when and how that happens. Given that, is it really a good idea to be positioning this model as some kind of factual authority figure?

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Post by hesdeadjim »

turtleyacht wrote: post #26
jamestimmins wrote: post #14

Highly recommend the Neal Stephenson book The Diamond Age: Or, A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer , for an interesting exploration of a custom AI tutor for each student. In that book, students have a "magic book" that teaches them lessons in a story form while encouraging certain life paths. It's pretty fascinating to consider the implications and whether that's something we'll want, bc it may soon be possible.

Ractors for hire! Once AI can generate videos, we just need pervasive surveillance capability to insert context-aware content into the stories. The Primer was able to identify the protagonist's family member and pet toys in its personalized myth. I wonder which TTRPG sourcebook will have the first credit to ChatGPT in DriveThruRPG :) Procedurally-generated worlds plus conversational NPCs!

Unfortunately the guard rails of the current systems prevent, in my opinion, interesting antagonists in fiction or games. I’ve experimented with some writing and when you can convince ChatGPT to give you some examples of negative behavior it will attempt to bring things back to a wholesome version. GPT-4 having more effective guard rails makes this problem worse.

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Post by Sol- »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #64
Sol- wrote: post #10

Given that learning will probably soon not be required anymore to live a successful life (AIs will do everything better than you), I guess such learning-as-a-hobby apps will be the remaining niche to entertain the humans on basic income. I wonder how many people will actually make use of it, though, and how many are instead content with being wireheaded by the various AI-based content apps that will appear, full with…

I don't know why comments like this take for granted "basic income" as like this inevitability. We currently let people all around the world die on the streets for not participating well enough in the economy. Why would this moment in history be any different? You think just because you get paid a lot right now, the guys in charge will make sure you are ok in the future? That is not really how this whole capitalism t…

Oh yeah, the basic income thing I just threw in there because I think even in the best case where the disempowered and soon-to-be unemployed workers will be cared for, humanity will be reduced to AI-governed content consumers without much agency left (cf "The Machine Stops").

That said, I agree that it's more likely that the almost all of the returns of this AI-based rationalization will flow towards the wealthy, as usual.

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Post by james-revisoai »

mullingitover wrote: post #39

I wonder if this kind of intelligent tutoring could be the answer to Bloom's Two Sigma Problem. The limiting factor with that problem was that not everyone can afford a personal tutor. Having an AI tutor that can breeze through the SAT seems like it should give every student a major boost.

Since using T5 to generate quiz questions in 2019 I've thought this. Transformers now can understand misconceptions, quote source materials... it will equalise education.
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