61–70 of 89 posts
A pity, I'd have liked to visit Scotland again. Perhaps it's just me, but when a country decides to treat me like a criminal suspect instead of a welcomed visitor I just don't want to go there anymore.
The cost of the ETA has not been confirmed but it is expected to be in a similar range to those schemes. The U.S. Electronic System for Travel Authorization costs $21. The European Union is set to launch its own digital travel authorization scheme, called ETIAS, for visa-exempt nationals in 2024. It will enable travel within 30 countries. This isn't a UK thing, I expect most developed countries to adopt such things i…
If I don't need a visa, because I'm a "visa-exempt" national insn't ETIAS just another name for a visa then?
It's confusing and looks like a copout from the previous VISA agreements countries have signed.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
You misread what I said above: > similar name to a "bad person" If you share the same name with someone on a watch list, you may be required to physically attend an interview at the embassy. That's a huge burden and something visa free travelers may not have had to do before.
I understood perfectly well and nonetheless a-OK with this. It is a huge burden for me and everybody else to take off our shoes and stand in long lines over the last 25 years or so. The experience is already suboptimal, some security theatre is at play to be sure, and yet what do you actually suggest? Perhaps you misread what I said above: > There is also "bad person" without scare quotes to consider.
The status quo? That's implied by the conversation we're having, the existing system Vs. the new system.
> Perhaps you misread what I said above:
Didn't understand it the first time I read it, don't understand it now.
A pity, I'd have liked to visit Scotland again. Perhaps it's just me, but when a country decides to treat me like a criminal suspect instead of a welcomed visitor I just don't want to go there anymore.
Then you probably won’t be traveling internationally much after about 10 years from now. This is coming everywhere.
Canada, for exemple. They asks you for your name, passport number, credit card number, if you have anything specific to mention. Then you instantly received an email with your ETA
On the other hand, countries like the USA make it weird. They infamously ask you if you were involved in the 3rd Reich, and they want your social media accounts. The latter is probably to know if you're an American&Trump loving tourist, or if you keep saying that Canada is better. Idk what else they can get out of this.
oh, and they ask you if you have a mental health disorder; They probably don't want autistic tourists either.
The cost of the ETA has not been confirmed but it is expected to be in a similar range to those schemes. The U.S. Electronic System for Travel Authorization costs $21. The European Union is set to launch its own digital travel authorization scheme, called ETIAS, for visa-exempt nationals in 2024. It will enable travel within 30 countries. This isn't a UK thing, I expect most developed countries to adopt such things i…
I don't understand it. If I don't need a visa, because I'm a "visa-exempt" national insn't ETIAS just another name for a visa then? It's confusing and looks like a copout from the previous VISA agreements countries have signed.
Hence all of these various "visa waiver" schemes have been mis-named, they're just simpler/cheaper/easier visa schemes.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then you probably won’t be traveling internationally much after about 10 years from now. This is coming everywhere.
yes, but some countries have a pretty streamlined process. Canada, for exemple. They asks you for your name, passport number, credit card number, if you have anything specific to mention. Then you instantly received an email with your ETA On the other hand, countries like the USA make it weird. They infamously ask you if you were involved in the 3rd Reich, and they want your social media accounts. The latter is proba…
Mining for extremist attitudes or behaviors
> ETA > 'decision given within three days.' (so too long to book a last minute weekend trip) > may also need to take a “dynamic selfie,” > eventually require all travelers to submit fingerprint biometrics I live in France, and used to go to the UK on organised trips, schools trips, holiday camps, or with friends, for a weekend to two weeks, because it was so easy to go there ! We would go to London, to Wales, Baths,…
The USA started with the ESTA thing, previously I'd just fill in the "visa-waiver" form on the flight.
Then (I guess in response) the EU (while the UK was still a member) agreed to the ETIAS scheme. Is has simply been delayed in its introduction - it was supposed to be operating now. Hence affecting US and UK citizens traveling to the EU, and for the latter "regional travelers".
So why should EU (or US) citizens traveling to the UK be exempt from a similar experience?
It isn't related to Brexit, As such. It just seems to be the way the world in general has been heading over the last 15 or so years.
(Brexit obviously has an impact both ways for EU/UK citizens, as within the EU club FoM applied. It doesn't any more - either way. So no-one is being singled out)
> Anyone arriving at the U.K. border by air or rail without an ETA will be turned away, including if they arrive via Ireland but are not Irish or British citizens. This is contrary to eg BBC reporting which says that Irish /residents/ departing from Ireland also won’t need an ETA Edit: which makes sense, because you often arrive as a domestic passenger when arriving from Ireland, with no passport checks (except for a…
So on flights, full ID checks have been in force for entry to the UK for any years - since around 1995 or so. One can still travel between Ireland and GB on ferries and avoid ID checks, but if one is not an Irish or British citizen, once can not make use the the CTA (which is not a "travel area", but reciprocal privileges for both citizenship's).
Earlier quoted context omitted.
yes, but some countries have a pretty streamlined process. Canada, for exemple. They asks you for your name, passport number, credit card number, if you have anything specific to mention. Then you instantly received an email with your ETA On the other hand, countries like the USA make it weird. They infamously ask you if you were involved in the 3rd Reich, and they want your social media accounts. The latter is proba…
> Idk what else they can get out of this Mining for extremist attitudes or behaviors
have fun, dear government agents. You were the ones who wanted it.
I hope trollish attitude or behaviour isn't disqualifying, but I couldn't care less if I'm allowed in the USA or not.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
The part you quoted explicitly says "but are not Irish or British citizens".
Argh. Note to self, read articles more carefully. Thanks for the heads up :) That being said, politicians seem to shy away from putting anything resembling a checkpoint on that border in fear of reigniting the conflict. But that would be necessary, if only to check residency status and validate the ETA for non-Irish EU citizens. Once there is a checkpoint, political pressure will rise to also use it for EU goods chec…
So nothing changes regarding flights from NI to GB. There are usually few checks on the ferries, but one is advised to carry proof of citizenship, as one can be asked to prove that one is entitled to use the CTA.
Separately, it was recently announced that third country nationals traveling from Ireland to NI would not require prior authorisations. i.e. the UK will not police travel across the intra-Ireland brder.