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The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#61
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> This should be alarming to anyone with a stake in content "protection". Look how many hoops I had to jump through just to legally watch Netflix as a paying customer! This tells me I should just stay on macOS or Windows rather than go on a Safari hunt for getting Netflix working on a ARM Linux machine.

Or just pirate it and get DRM free 4k video basically as soon as it is released.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eehhh at the end of the day, L1 is still almost impossible to bypass and hasn't been broken in years. So it still works, meaning it doesn't really matter even if it's security by obscurity (I dont think it qualifies for the term but anyways).

Circumventing higher levels of Widevine has been unnecessary until now, since the HDCP protecting the inevitable HDMI video output has been thoroughly cracked. Pristine 1080p and 4k copies of Netflix content is widely available.

> since the HDCP protecting the inevitable HDMI video output has been thoroughly cracked

My impression is the stuff coming from the various streaming services is not captured and reencoded, but direct bit-for-bit copy of the original H.264 (or H.265) encoding (sans DRM). (Yeah, others will do reencodes later but quite a bit of the source material encoding comes directly from the streaming sites.)

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#63
The mere existence of Widevine is a mystery for me. How sensible for Netflix is to invest into DRM at all?

It's not a gamedev situation, where DRM lasts long enough to make impact on initial sales. Pirated Netflix shows appear on the torrents same day, and unless they have full-stack protection from the decoder to the screen, not much can be done.

They seem to make user experience worse for nothing.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#66

> Truth be told, I don't care very much about Netflix - the UX offered by BitTorrent is superior.

getting what you want fast. It is literally that easy & netflix messes it up with being nondeterministic and screaming at me trailers I've never asked for. My autistic self is o.u.t.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#67
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Circumventing higher levels of Widevine has been unnecessary until now, since the HDCP protecting the inevitable HDMI video output has been thoroughly cracked. Pristine 1080p and 4k copies of Netflix content is widely available.

> since the HDCP protecting the inevitable HDMI video output has been thoroughly cracked My impression is the stuff coming from the various streaming services is not captured and reencoded, but direct bit-for-bit copy of the original H.264 (or H.265) encoding (sans DRM). (Yeah, others will do reencodes later but quite a bit of the source material encoding comes directly from the streaming sites.)

You're right that there is plenty of directly stream-ripped content out there, presumably using cracks of various levels of Widevine. The makers of these tools and the groups using them tend to keep quiet about the details of the precise exploits they're using, for obvious reasons. Ultimately, there's no shortage of DRM-free 4K content, whether from streaming services or Blu-Ray, since there's always a weak point in the chain somewhere.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#68
post #63

The mere existence of Widevine is a mystery for me. How sensible for Netflix is to invest into DRM at all? It's not a gamedev situation, where DRM lasts long enough to make impact on initial sales. Pirated Netflix shows appear on the torrents same day, and unless they have full-stack protection from the decoder to the screen, not much can be done. They seem to make user experience worse for nothing.

I'm sure it's probably a requirement from all the 3rd party media companies. They didn't seem to like VPNs either. But I also wouldn't be surprised if Netflix wants it to keep high quality versions at least off pirate sites.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#69
post #63

The mere existence of Widevine is a mystery for me. How sensible for Netflix is to invest into DRM at all? It's not a gamedev situation, where DRM lasts long enough to make impact on initial sales. Pirated Netflix shows appear on the torrents same day, and unless they have full-stack protection from the decoder to the screen, not much can be done. They seem to make user experience worse for nothing.

Full stack protection from decoder the screen is coming.

IIRC you can only play 4k Netflix on a smart TV which controls the entire stack from network to pixels

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#70
post #66

> Truth be told, I don't care very much about Netflix - the UX offered by BitTorrent is superior.

getting what you want fast. It is literally that easy & netflix messes it up with being nondeterministic and screaming at me trailers I've never asked for. My autistic self is o.u.t.

Netflix is designed this way because most of the time people don’t know what they want. So it’s a browse, not a search, interface. But it has search so I don’t really understand why it’s a problem to see things you don’t care about for a second before searching.
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