I wonder if this team has considered making the electrodes out of silver? Robert O. Becker had great success accelerating the healing of bone tissue using similar methods. Seems like this would avoid any toxicity issues.
E-bandages lightly zap and heal wounds
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Re: E-bandages lightly zap and heal wounds
#62The Curiosity Daily podcast covered this a few days ago. The podcast is a daily 15 minutes where the hosts present science topics like this in a more casual friendly way. One person tells the other about the contents of the article and then have a back and forth discussion on the key points or to clarify things that were left out. It's a pretty good way to get a quick idea of the latest scientific research in an easy…
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The internet is going to be ruined by AI. I see myself falling for it even now as AI becomes more mainstream. "I don't think that's true, that writing style sounds like AI to me".
The quality of text content from "unverified" sources is going to keep degrading until the "open web" has the same quality of content that recipe sites do today (except the "this is actually the thing you want" is going to be lost in the AI generated garbage.
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Someone did make a ChatGPT/AI podcast that reads and talks about the articles on the front page of HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34990229
Re: E-bandages lightly zap and heal wounds
#63I wondered why electricity would help a wound heal in the first place. > The inflammation associated with these wounds can disrupt the body’s normal electric signals, impeding the migration of new cells that can support the healing process.
The “migration of new cells”? I thought new cells would grow in place; do they really migrate from elsewhere?
They come from blood stream, bone marrow, surrounding tissues etc
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a very big difference between ingesting products and having them absorbed in your body differently.
Depending on the product, sure. However, metals aren’t (as far as I know, there are probably exceptions) metabolized by the GI system, apart from being absorbed in to the bloodstream which would be equivalent to this. I have no idea how it could interact with surrounding tissue, that might be an issue but probably pretty unlikely.
There are transporter proteins for metals, eg Ceruloplasmin for copper and iron. I don’t know about molybdenum though, and think that tissue accumulation should at least be considered here.
Re: E-bandages lightly zap and heal wounds
#65We use a zinc based cream to speed up healing after the wound has closed as it reduces inflammation and helps reduce scar tissue forming. Any cream with zinc oxide will do. It's a pretty magic ingredient. Even backed up by science :).
Zinc cream used to also be pretty common, applied to the nose, as a sunscreen in Australia.
It's just an all around great cream for anything that is inflamed or needs protection.
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#66Re: E-bandages lightly zap and heal wounds
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
I saw a lecture on bio electricity and it blew my mind. I love areas of science that seem like crystal woo that turn out to be legit. Scientific groupthink creates many opportunities…
it’s disappointing to me that there’s never been a real double-blind study into healing crystals. yeah they’re very clearly placebic woo woo, but the fact that no one’s even thoroughly looked at it is a little sad. RIP James Randi
I'm more surprised that auriculotherapy was recognised by the WHO and I still struggle to find rich medical literature on the subject (maybe looking in the wrong places) although I must admit it helped me a lot, placebo or not (sure didn't feel like one... The reactions and changes were, in my case, drastic to say the least - I haven't had a painful migraine in 10 years - though I still get the other symptoms but no pain, thank doc or my gullible brain).
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#68It's absolutely not crazy talk that electrical current in the body is likely relevant to the healing process. Cystic fibrosis is a genetic disorder that makes people extremely vulnerable to infection, though I don't think current medical science knows why. It's a salt wasting condition and salt is an electrolyte. The most common test for CF is a sweat chloride test which basically determines how salty you sweat is. A…
> being pursued or optimized for making money, not healing patients
This is a strange complaint to levy on an article describing a real breakthrough.
> that's probably not going to lead to a patent that could potentially make someone very wealthy
Plenty of industry is focussed on dietary suggestions. Diets and supplements that augment one's electro-potential is an obvious marketing win. That said, it seems a local induced current or field would cure such problems more directly than fussing with diet, which causes a general effect across the body.
Re: E-bandages lightly zap and heal wounds
#69It's absolutely not crazy talk that electrical current in the body is likely relevant to the healing process. Cystic fibrosis is a genetic disorder that makes people extremely vulnerable to infection, though I don't think current medical science knows why. It's a salt wasting condition and salt is an electrolyte. The most common test for CF is a sweat chloride test which basically determines how salty you sweat is. A…
> being pursued or optimized for making money, not healing patients This is a strange complaint to levy on an article describing a real breakthrough. > that's probably not going to lead to a patent that could potentially make someone very wealthy Plenty of industry is focussed on dietary suggestions. Diets and supplements that augment one's electro-potential is an obvious marketing win. That said, it seems a local in…
Our current so-called Healthcare system monetizes treatment, not cures. They make their money on treating you, not on getting you well, keeping you well or preventing problems. Unsurprisingly, we have a lot of chronic ailments -- because that's where the money is.
The wounds that don't want to heal for diabetes patients grow out of a general deterioration of the body chemistry generally. If we had a clearer idea of exactly where things go wrong, preventing the chemical states which foster wounds that don't heal would be a superior method.
Once the general body chemistry has deteriorated that far, fixing the current wound is merely fixing the presenting problem. It points to a much larger problem, one which will likely keep fostering new wounds that are resistant to healing and this general deterioration is likely to eventually kill them.