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Sam doing a 180 on non-profit to for-profit was egregious, IMHO. Having said that, plenty of extremely profitable organizations masquerade (literally and figuratively) as non-profits. Also: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1626516035863212034
Capped profit*
Not sure why the AI community has a weird obsession with being non-profit (or not). It's not like non-profits can't be evil, and it's not like OpenAI has done anything particularly egregious, either. What we do need is more weights being released in the public domain (hard to find even on Huggingface), easier ways to train models locally, better pruned models for embedded device inference (e.g. running on a Jetson Na…
A lot of times, I find the obsession isn’t a desire for collaboration or anything noble, it’s as simple as this: people want to use the end products for free or very cheaply.
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If only they had chosen a better name... "Eleuther" is hard to pronounce correctly for someone who doesn't know the word.
One measure of likelihood for success is how well the name rolls off the tongue.
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If it's from the greek word for freedom (ελευθερία) then i guess elefther: ele (like electric) f the (like thesis) r.
The English convention is to pronounce -eu- in Greek words as /ju/, not /ef/.
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It's disruptive technology and an enormous amount of value is likely to be created. I would much rather the profits go to a nonprofit which can distribute them charitably rather than them giving them away freely to the megacorps which actually have the resources to run these massive models (edit^2: at scale). I do think the 100x cap on return on Microsoft's $1B investment was way too high (we don't know what the cap…
I just looked up the the top CEO salaries of non-profit organizations in the USA - as of 2020, they ranged from about $16 million to $8 million. A non-profit appears to simply be a 'non-stock corporation' and can have the same ridiculouly pyramidal compensation structures that shareholder corporations do. Overhauling the legal definition of non-profit to require the highest-paid employees to make no more than ~10X as…
I think you are confusing non-profit with charity perhaps?
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It's disruptive technology and an enormous amount of value is likely to be created. I would much rather the profits go to a nonprofit which can distribute them charitably rather than them giving them away freely to the megacorps which actually have the resources to run these massive models (edit^2: at scale). I do think the 100x cap on return on Microsoft's $1B investment was way too high (we don't know what the cap…
I just looked up the the top CEO salaries of non-profit organizations in the USA - as of 2020, they ranged from about $16 million to $8 million. A non-profit appears to simply be a 'non-stock corporation' and can have the same ridiculouly pyramidal compensation structures that shareholder corporations do. Overhauling the legal definition of non-profit to require the highest-paid employees to make no more than ~10X as…
As one example, the CEO of Kaiser was the highest paid nonprofit CEO at ~$18m[0] in 2021. That seems egregious until you realize Kaiser had $93b in revenue in 2021[1].
As one example from healthcare, the CEO of Moderna was paid $18m in 2021[2]. Moderna reported $18b in revenue in 2021[3].
You see this over and over in discussions about nonprofits, charities, etc. In most cases the executive leadership team is running a huge organization - in the case of Kaiser nearly $100b in revenue and 300k employees. Competent leadership at that scale is expensive.
In an ideal world this wouldn't be the case and individuals with these qualifications would be willing to take even more significant pay cuts for the "greater good" of whatever the mission of the nonprofit it. Per usual that's not the world we live in.
Speaking personally, I'd give pause to working with, donating to, etc an organization doing $100b in revenue with an executive team making 1/20 (or whatever) they would make elsewhere. In some limited cases for those who have "made their money" it would be a great thing. For anyone else I would assume they're either taking a HUGE pay cut for the cause (great thing, but unlikely) or completely incompetent, embezzling, etc.
[0] - https://www.erieri.com/blog/post/top-10-highest-paid-ceos-at...
[1] - https://about.kaiserpermanente.org/news/kaiser-foundation-he...
[2] - https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-lobbying/34...
[3] - https://investors.modernatx.com/news/news-details/2022/Moder....
Not sure why the AI community has a weird obsession with being non-profit (or not). It's not like non-profits can't be evil, and it's not like OpenAI has done anything particularly egregious, either. What we do need is more weights being released in the public domain (hard to find even on Huggingface), easier ways to train models locally, better pruned models for embedded device inference (e.g. running on a Jetson Na…
Sam doing a 180 on non-profit to for-profit was egregious, IMHO. Having said that, plenty of extremely profitable organizations masquerade (literally and figuratively) as non-profits. Also: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1626516035863212034
Isn't Ikea technically a non-profit? through some weird structuring?
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are you bottlenecked by engineering
Yes, we are currently bottlenecked primarily by engineering manpower.
If so, I wonder about the implications of black-box models helping to study and develop solutions for interpretability. It gives me "reflections on trusting trust" vibes.
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I'm just going to keep saying YOO-luh-tuhr, thank you very much.
Reminds me of Yog-Sothoth, which would be a great name for an anthropomorphized statistical model... > Yog-Sothoth knows the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the key and guardian of the gate. Past, present, future, all are one in Yog-Sothoth. He knows where the Old Ones broke through of old, and where They shall break through again. He knows where They have trod earth's fields, and where They still tread…
https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1625850766039842824?c...
RLHF = Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback