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DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you are a platform as big as them, you can only do this so much before it crosses a line into antitrust. Biden's Administration just hired a ton of anti-trust lawyers. Unfortunately its a sad fact that the people making these decisions are the people who don't have the natural sense to not do this in the first place for the simple reason that the behavior drives negative sentiment and outcomes in the long run fo…

This is about as far from antitrust as you can get. It’s fine to think you know things, but you don’t.

> This is about as far from antitrust you can get.

Not really, no.

No DMCA notice is posted, its simply a vague you broke our ToS but we're not going to tell you how or why so you can correct it according to the mods, and then the non-response for 9 days.

Github owns Microsoft, Microsoft has an interest in Content, IPTV like many other technologies can potentially be used by people and businesses for a wide variety of legal uses.

If a business closes an account for cause, you say why, you allow access to the maintainers to migrate (if its not a legal issue), and you keep the account closed.

If you don't say why, block access immediately, and don't provide a legitimate reason, you could be in violation of the Sherman act either directly, or more often via third-party liability when it comes to open source.

I'm not a lawyer, but I know that much, its far from clear that its not antitrust, and on a more personal note, you should be more careful with those snipes. Its against the HN ToS after all.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Note to article submitters: The HN audience aren't mind readers. Posting a link like this, which simply shows the GitHub repo being taken down with a terms of service violation, with no further information, isn't helpful. There is no info: 1. on what iptv-org/iptv actually is/was. 2. that corroborates that this was actually a DMCA takedown request 3. that actually provides any additional context at all about when/why…

https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=github.com/iptv-org right there next to the title.

https://archive.org/details/github.com-iptv-org-iptv_-_2022-...

https://old.reddit.com/r/IPTV/comments/j1l8ps/iptvorg_hit_wi...

https://web.archive.org/web/20201117192948if_/https://codelo...

https://web.archive.org/web/20220925054954if_/https://iptv-o...

The parent honestly believes that this takedown is not copyright-related. Thought experiment: What are the other ways a repository containing only URLs could violate Github ToS.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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I would recommend avoiding making contributions on GitHub. If you want an account for search and whatnot fine, but I had an account with hundreds of stars killed. They said it was because I created a second account. I said they could delete the second account, or I would do it. They refused to accept this suggestion and are keeping both banned. What's worse is they also kill every single issue, PR and comment you've…

Woah, what? I have a GitHub account for work, and one for personal stuff. (Separation of church and state is a good idea) Are you saying, I could get both nuked if they find out it's the same person?

Nah, completely allowed: https://docs.github.com/en/account-and-profile/setting-up-an...

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Woah, what? I have a GitHub account for work, and one for personal stuff. (Separation of church and state is a good idea) Are you saying, I could get both nuked if they find out it's the same person?

This exactly. I have three accounts, private, public, work. GitHub asking for one account? Crazy.

As above, it's allowed: https://docs.github.com/en/account-and-profile/setting-up-an...

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Note to article submitters: The HN audience aren't mind readers. Posting a link like this, which simply shows the GitHub repo being taken down with a terms of service violation, with no further information, isn't helpful. There is no info: 1. on what iptv-org/iptv actually is/was. 2. that corroborates that this was actually a DMCA takedown request 3. that actually provides any additional context at all about when/why…

https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=github.com/iptv-org right there next to the title. https://archive.org/details/github.com-iptv-org-iptv_-_2022-... https://old.reddit.com/r/IPTV/comments/j1l8ps/iptvorg_hit_wi... https://web.archive.org/web/20201117192948if_/https://codelo... https://web.archive.org/web/20220925054954if_/https://iptv-o... The parent honestly believes that this takedown is not copyright-related.…

Still thinking mind reading is a better option considering your #3 link to reddit is from 2 years ago.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Github posts their DMCA claims, and I'm not seeing one for iptv https://github.com/github/dmca/search?q=iptv&type=

The DMCA repository was last updated 2 days ago, and this link likely appeared on HackerNews only a few hours after the IPTV repository was unpublished. Therefore, it appears that they simply have not yet published the DMCA notice.

No, you get a different message for that.

For example: https://github.com/dts50/dts50.github.io

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Note to article submitters: The HN audience aren't mind readers. Posting a link like this, which simply shows the GitHub repo being taken down with a terms of service violation, with no further information, isn't helpful. There is no info: 1. on what iptv-org/iptv actually is/was. 2. that corroborates that this was actually a DMCA takedown request 3. that actually provides any additional context at all about when/why…

https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=github.com/iptv-org right there next to the title. https://archive.org/details/github.com-iptv-org-iptv_-_2022-... https://old.reddit.com/r/IPTV/comments/j1l8ps/iptvorg_hit_wi... https://web.archive.org/web/20201117192948if_/https://codelo... https://web.archive.org/web/20220925054954if_/https://iptv-o... The parent honestly believes that this takedown is not copyright-related.…

> The parent honestly believes that this takedown is not copyright-related.

Doesn't sound like it.

When I clicked on the link and saw the placeholder page, I was wondering "wtf did anyone bother submitting this useless link?". My expectation was the link would have been to the DMCA notice sent to GitHub, which would have been more useful.

Next step was to look for further info in the HN thread instead.

Anyway, while your post has some useful links, the parent's post is also correct and it's a bit crappy to claim things about it which aren't actually in it.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Github posts their DMCA claims, and I'm not seeing one for iptv https://github.com/github/dmca/search?q=iptv&type=

Checking the most likely spot in that repo (eg without using the search feature), doesn't show any likely looking candidates either:

https://github.com/github/dmca/tree/master/2023/02

That being said, the most recent dated one was 23rd Feb (last Thursday), so it does seem possible there might be a lag of a few days for stuff to show up. Not real sure though.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Note to article submitters: The HN audience aren't mind readers. Posting a link like this, which simply shows the GitHub repo being taken down with a terms of service violation, with no further information, isn't helpful. There is no info: 1. on what iptv-org/iptv actually is/was. 2. that corroborates that this was actually a DMCA takedown request 3. that actually provides any additional context at all about when/why…

https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=github.com/iptv-org right there next to the title. https://archive.org/details/github.com-iptv-org-iptv_-_2022-... https://old.reddit.com/r/IPTV/comments/j1l8ps/iptvorg_hit_wi... https://web.archive.org/web/20201117192948if_/https://codelo... https://web.archive.org/web/20220925054954if_/https://iptv-o... The parent honestly believes that this takedown is not copyright-related.…

https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv-org.github.io/files/1077347...
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