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Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by dorkwood » Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 7:31 AM UTC

ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #60

dorkwood wrote: post #59

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You’re right, it does take more than that. I used an abbreviated version of a prompt to illustrate a point. I suppose I could have written “Garden castle, Many flowers, A few roses, clouds, dramatic clouds above, pink, dreamy ultra wide shot, atmospheric, hyper realistic, 8k, epic composition, cinematic, octane render, artstation landscape vista photography by Carr Clifton & Galen Rowell, 16K resolution, Landscape ve…

It would also diminish your point. Prompt engineering is a real thing now.

The point you seem to be arguing is that prompt engineering is comparable in difficulty to picking up a paintbrush and painting a picture. Is that correct? If so, I just don’t think we’re going to find common ground here.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by zmgsabst » Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 12:56 PM UTC

zamadatix wrote: post #27

zmgsabst wrote: post #17

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Not really: I find a distinction between paying to CNC your own design and purchasing a product designed and CNC’d by someone else. In both cases you have a finished product, but in the second case you didn’t make it — you bought it.

I find a distinction in your example as well but I don't equate using the above tools to buying a premade solution in the same way I don't equate using a CNC to buying a premade solution on the premise it's less work to use a CNC skillfully vs what it would take manually.

Sure — except that “a prompt turned into results” more closely matches buying results than creating your own CNC program.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by jacobjjacob » Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 5:36 PM UTC

This guy seems like a “content creator” but the article is trying to speak to artists. Calling it “content” has already devalued the art to some marketing fodder. So I don’t think this is going to make many artists feel better.

I think that most artists would agree that these tools can be used to create art. But that’s not what is concerning- it’s that the tools will ultimately be used by people who don’t value art to further devalue it.

Re: The reason content creators worry about ChatGPT

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Post by Nadya » Sat, Feb 18, 2023, 3:01 AM UTC

dorkwood wrote: post #57

Nadya wrote: post #53

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What are your opinions of Yves Klein's series of IKB paintings? Do you have an appreciative understanding of the differences between IKB 79 and IKB 191? Are the differences all that important over opening Microsoft Paint, selecting the bucket tool, changing the fill color to blue, and clicking the canvas? I'm not trolling either. I'm quite bothered by the common argument that "art is effort". Art is not defined by th…

I think we’re talking about different things. You’re asking if these things are still considered art, even if they required no effort. They very well might be. I’m not concerned with that. I’m more concerned with how in love people are with the idea of suddenly being able to paint a picture without needing to learn how to paint a picture. I’d feel the same way about someone who was excited that they could replicate I…

I am quite excited that I can take a photograph of scenery with my camera in the blink of an eye without ever having to learn how to paint. I can even send that photo off to be printed to hang on my wall!

E: I misread you so largely removed my post as it delved into the history of what is "art" which isn't really what you were talking about as made clear by your 2nd paragraph. But I feel the point of photography::paintings and what one excitingly sends off to be printed still holds true.