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Tax raids at BBC offices in India enter second day

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Re: Tax raids at BBC offices in India enter second day

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Post by rhaway84773 »

nocababges wrote: post #45

on a flip side what is the point of releasing it now vs before, seems some malice intent on part of BBC. Indian Supreme Court already aquitted Modi of the Riots in 2012.

There is no flip side. One action is democratic, the other isn’t.

But to answer your question, the documentary and its timing is the result of a UK report created by the UK consulate after the riots was made public within the last year or so because UK law requires such documents to be made public after a certain amount of time.

Finally, Modi being acquitted in an Indian court of law doesn’t mean innocence. Even ignoring any questions of corruption, etc, India does not have one of those legal systems which decides whether a defendant is guilty or innocent. India’s court system only decides whether someone can be proven guilty.

An acquittal simply means that one cannot be proven guilty, not that they are innocent. The not guilty verdict can also be the result of a lack of evidence (which was the case in this situation), or due to procedural mistakes, etc. which may lead to an acquittal even if someone is guilty.

Re: Tax raids at BBC offices in India enter second day

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Post by jonny_eh »

ipaddr wrote: post #37
jonny_eh wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not competing with anyone here, so why does it matter that China's censorship mechanism are superior?

Because tools developed for China could be used in India and it would take them awhile to reach the levels China which isn't effective

Aren't China and India political enemies? I find it hard to imagine the Indian govt procuring core information technology from China.

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Post by InTheArena »

cscurmudgeon wrote: post #58
InTheArena wrote: post #36

India is increasingly going down the slippery slope of repression that we have seen frequently in countries about 5-10 years before they lose their collective minds, and everyone wonders when the state "went bad".

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yes.

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Post by toast0 »

ketralnis wrote: post #56
coliveira wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The VPN doesn't matter a thing. The goal is to avoid mass access to subversive content, so it doesn't matter if someone somewhere can find a way to circumvent these measures.

At steady state yes, you want to control the overarching narrative sufficiently that nobody knows to ask the questions. But in the midst of protests like in Hong Kong a couple of years ago you may want specific measures to crack down in case the overarching narrative becomes "you should use a VPN"

India is pretty good at cracking down on communications in Jammu and Kashmir, yes? Pretty simple to roll that out to the whole country, if that's what you're looking for.

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Post by MisterBastahrd »

cscurmudgeon wrote: post #58
InTheArena wrote: post #36

India is increasingly going down the slippery slope of repression that we have seen frequently in countries about 5-10 years before they lose their collective minds, and everyone wonders when the state "went bad".

[flagged]

You should really try reading entire articles when you think you're posting gotchas.

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Post by rhaway84773 »

AlbertCory wrote: post #29

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Which is still no reason to blatantly try and suppress their legal and democratic rights.

And anyways, at this point this has nothing to do with thr BBC. This is the BJP telling every other news agency in India, a year before the 2024 general elections, that if they dare publish anything the ruling party doesn’t like, they will use the entire power of the state to make the publishing entity’s life miserable.

If you want to understand why the BJP would risk the Streisand effect, it’s not because they are incompetent. It’s because this is a very deliberate and calculated message to every other press outlet in India to not mess with the BJP in the months before the election.

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Post by sockaddr »

mikymoothrowa wrote: post #42
InTheArena wrote: post #36

India is increasingly going down the slippery slope of repression that we have seen frequently in countries about 5-10 years before they lose their collective minds, and everyone wonders when the state "went bad".

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This is probably the most ridiculous statement I've read all week. It's only Wednesday, but still.
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