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Re: Wi Flag (2002)

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Post by dualboot »

loganc2342 wrote: post #41
hesdeadjim wrote: post #37

Some of my fondest gaming memories are from this game. There was nothing ever quite like it, and the allegiance system created a special type of community bond that I haven’t seen repeated. At one point I had 10 “vassals” sworn to me, and in our allegiance that came with the expectation that you assist and mentor those under you. Stakes were higher when our allegiance committed to being red dot PKs on a white server…

MMOs are just so expensive to develop now that innovation is almost dead. You either make a WoW-like or you die (and many times you die anyway). They really don’t make MMOs like they used to.

That's because AC started development before even Ultima Online launched. It was started by a bunch of college students that loved MUDs and had no idea what they were actually doing.

It was such a special thing before it was hit with a lot of road grading over the 15+ years of monthly patching that smoothed a lot of the rough edges that made it really unique.

Re: Wi Flag (2002)

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Post by phailhaus »

anyfoo wrote: post #44

Around 15 years ago, when casual little games on Facebook were still a thing (actually when Facebook itself was still a thing), I used to play Yahtzee on the site while watching TV shows or whatever. It was one of the most popular games on there. For me it was something to fidget with (there was no money involved or anything, just a personal high score), so I played it a lot. I felt more and more that dice values of…

You stopped playing because they listened to you and fixed the bug for everyone?

Re: Wi Flag (2002)

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Post by altairprime »

phailhaus wrote: post #62
anyfoo wrote: post #44

Around 15 years ago, when casual little games on Facebook were still a thing (actually when Facebook itself was still a thing), I used to play Yahtzee on the site while watching TV shows or whatever. It was one of the most popular games on there. For me it was something to fidget with (there was no money involved or anything, just a personal high score), so I played it a lot. I felt more and more that dice values of…

You stopped playing because they listened to you and fixed the bug for everyone?

They didn’t say “thank you”, which for many humans is demoralizing.

Re: Wi Flag (2002)

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Post by dualboot »

hesdeadjim wrote: post #16
downvotetruth wrote: post #6

What does "Wi" stand for in the stamp? Would have been better to have a flag of freshmeat.

From what I recall it was a character named Wi who was persistently vocal about it.

This is the correct answer. Wi was a prolific blogger and fun personality.

Re: Wi Flag (2002)

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Post by anyfoo »

lucasmullens wrote: post #60
anyfoo wrote: post #44

Around 15 years ago, when casual little games on Facebook were still a thing (actually when Facebook itself was still a thing), I used to play Yahtzee on the site while watching TV shows or whatever. It was one of the most popular games on there. For me it was something to fidget with (there was no money involved or anything, just a personal high score), so I played it a lot. I felt more and more that dice values of…

Interestingly that Yahtzee version was rigged in the player's favor since they're more likely to get X-of-a-kind if the same numbers appear more often. Average scores probably dropped a decent bit after that fix.

For the short time that I knew about it and it was not fixed yet, I integrated it into my strategy. 1 and 6 are rare, so if for example I still needed them for something, I was inclined to make good use of 1 and 6 when they came up, instead of rerolling them for something else.

Re: Wi Flag (2002)

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Post by nyanpasu64 »

iamdbtoo wrote: post #13
veilrap wrote: post #5

I love the "lore" that this sort of bug creates, especially in these sorts of large scale multiplayer environments. Players claiming to be cursed, and the curse was real! A very different sort of event that it reminds me of is the old World of Warcraft plague: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident

My theory for why people think they are being "shadowbanned" or otherwise targeted by a social media company is often because of bugs like this. They are weird and almost like gaslighting in the way you experience them and people who don't understand how these bugs can exist assume sinister motives.

Shadowbanning is a very real phenomenon; my current Reddit account was shadowbanned twice because I had created and posted memes which got unusually high upvotes for a new account, and the algorithm thought I was a bot reposting images to farm karma for future spamming. And from time to time I see HN users whose posts are flagged by default. I'm less sure if/how shadowbanning occurs on Twitter.

Re: Wi Flag (2002)

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Post by Aloisius »

ok_dad wrote: post #48
Aeolun wrote: post #23

Hmm, when they told me they were assigning people to a list I kind of knew what the answer was going to be. What is curious is that it took them a long time to find. I’d think that -as long as you believe there is a bug- this should be fairly straightforward to spot.

I was waiting for them to say something like "then we take the random variable and multiply it by 3 to correct for this" and then explain some other, more subtle, bug. Looks like we all make stupid mistakes like this sometimes. I made a bug where I tried to get the month number for the next month, so you had to wrap at 12, but I just did "(current_month + 1) % 12" and left it at that, thinking for some reason that mo…

I must be missing something. That is how modulo works. Well as long as January is month 0.

Re: Wi Flag (2002)

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Post by anyfoo »

phailhaus wrote: post #62
anyfoo wrote: post #44

Around 15 years ago, when casual little games on Facebook were still a thing (actually when Facebook itself was still a thing), I used to play Yahtzee on the site while watching TV shows or whatever. It was one of the most popular games on there. For me it was something to fidget with (there was no money involved or anything, just a personal high score), so I played it a lot. I felt more and more that dice values of…

You stopped playing because they listened to you and fixed the bug for everyone?

After I (happily!) did their work for them, a simple "thank you", or even an acknowledgment through a closed ticket, would have entirely sufficed to make my day.

Re: Wi Flag (2002)

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Post by 30minAdayHN »

phailhaus wrote: post #62
anyfoo wrote: post #44

Around 15 years ago, when casual little games on Facebook were still a thing (actually when Facebook itself was still a thing), I used to play Yahtzee on the site while watching TV shows or whatever. It was one of the most popular games on there. For me it was something to fidget with (there was no money involved or anything, just a personal high score), so I played it a lot. I felt more and more that dice values of…

You stopped playing because they listened to you and fixed the bug for everyone?

Because they lacked decency and intellectual humility to acknowledge his email despite benefiting from it.
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