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Re: Startups: Don't Host Your Blog on Tumblr

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Post by SingAlong »

zizee wrote: post #55
chlee wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there blog hosting services that one can use in a subfolder? AFAIK, both tumblr and posterous only supports subdomains but not folders.

Unfortunately not. I don't think this is actually possible as I don't think you can have a subfolder of a site hosted elsewhere (not in a 'performant' manner at least). The only solution that I know of is to host it all on the one box which makes it trick if you want to use Heroku to host your app. I am currently wrestling with this problem as I want to host a new app on Heroku, but have the marketing side of the sit…

Did you try the Cedar stack?

Re: Startups: Don't Host Your Blog on Tumblr

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Post by davesims »

abalone wrote: post #40

Ummm.... they're hosting on HEROKU? In 2011, Tumblr was down for 42 hours. In 2011, Heroku was down for 76 hours in one incident alone. And that's all before you get to the hubris of the assumption that your custom coded setup will perform better. A more sensible argument would be to move to a host with a better proven uptime record, such as Blogger (nearly 100%). Sources: http://allthingsd.com/20111215/tumblr-had-42…

The 'one incident' was the AWS outage that brought much, much more than Heroku down, and their post-mortem was fairly impressive, as far as that sort of thing goes.

I'm not saying you don't have a point, but imo your comparison of Heroku's 76 vs. Tumblr's 42 is not apples-to-apples. I think you have to at least put an asterisk by the 76. What OP is complaining about is a early-Twitter-days-like unreliability over a long interval, not a one-time outage that has a single explanation and for which Heroku took completely responsibility.

For my part, at the moment at least, I still have more confidence in Heroku than Tumblr, 76 vs 42 notwithstanding.

https://status.heroku.com/incident/151

Re: Startups: Don't Host Your Blog on Tumblr

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Post by Sukotto » 

   Heroku-hosted custom Jekyll setup
I thought Heroku only allowed dynamically-generated content (with static assets hosted elsewhere)

But the whole point of Jekyll is that it generates a static site.

What am I missing? (seriously)

I thought a starter Heroku account might work well for a side project I have cooking... Coincidentally, I was reading about Jekyll as something fun to try. Combining both of them would be pretty cool.

Re: Startups: Don't Host Your Blog on Tumblr

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Post by philwelch »

Sukotto wrote: post #63

Heroku-hosted custom Jekyll setup I thought Heroku only allowed dynamically-generated content (with static assets hosted elsewhere) But the whole point of Jekyll is that it generates a static site. What am I missing? (seriously) I thought a starter Heroku account might work well for a side project I have cooking... Coincidentally, I was reading about Jekyll as something fun to try. Combining both of them would be pre…

Heroku doesn't actively prevent you from hosting a static site. Yeah, heavy assets like images and video should be hosted elsewhere, but with HTML and stuff it's fine to just throw it in a static Git repo and use Heroku.

Re: Startups: Don't Host Your Blog on Tumblr

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Post by k7d »

PStamatiou wrote: post #53
theli0nheart wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're using Jekyll, why not just host with S3/Cloudfront?

I had thought about it but - I wanted to use Sinatra to 301 old tumblr urls - Call me weird but I loathe seeing *.html in urls and that's the only thing you can do with S3 root object (when I checked a few months ago) - something I can't remember. maybe it was cf edge server time to update when altering updates.

> I loathe seeing *.html in urls and that's the only thing you can do with S3 root object

You can configure name of index file, and that will be displayed for requests against root URL and subdirectories (such as blog posts) as well. No need for having .html in URLs.

The only problem I've encountered with S3 web hosting is that it does not let you host naked domains.

Re: Startups: Don't Host Your Blog on Tumblr

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Post by zizee »

SingAlong wrote: post #61
zizee wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately not. I don't think this is actually possible as I don't think you can have a subfolder of a site hosted elsewhere (not in a 'performant' manner at least). The only solution that I know of is to host it all on the one box which makes it trick if you want to use Heroku to host your app. I am currently wrestling with this problem as I want to host a new app on Heroku, but have the marketing side of the sit…

Did you try the Cedar stack?

Well, you can host PHP on a cedar stack, and I have successfully deployed wordpress to heroku, so that is very cool.

It was actually really easy with this: https://github.com/mhoofman/wordpress-heroku

But unfortuently, to the best of my knowledge, you can't host both PHP at the same time as Rails.

If anyone know otherwise I would love to hear!

Re: Startups: Don't Host Your Blog on Tumblr

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Post by SingAlong »

zizee wrote: post #66
SingAlong wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you try the Cedar stack?

Well, you can host PHP on a cedar stack, and I have successfully deployed wordpress to heroku, so that is very cool. It was actually really easy with this: https://github.com/mhoofman/wordpress-heroku But unfortuently, to the best of my knowledge, you can't host both PHP at the same time as Rails. If anyone know otherwise I would love to hear!

I've read about people who use workarounds on the Cedar stack for different purposes. Did you think about running two different heroku instances for the same app? With both on instances on Cedar stack, one instance can be running the rails part while the other instance runs the php.

I just read the DotCloud docs and they do a lot of stuff including php and ruby, you might want to check them out to see if they run both in the same instance.

Re: Startups: Don't Host Your Blog on Tumblr

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Post by Leynos »

flomo wrote: post #26
citricsquid wrote: post #2

A mistake people seem to make is assuming Tumblr is a blogging platform akin to Wordpress.com, it isn't, it's a different beast entirely. The majority of Tumblr is the "community" of ~teenagers sharing pictures and videos and posts, Tumblr revolves around the dashboard not individual blogs. Sure you can host your company blog there, but do tumblr care about the uptime of that vs. the uptime of their dashboard?

There is enough porn on Tumblr that I would assume it's being blocked by many corporate firewalls. (Not to mention blanket bans on social networking sites.) Probably not a place I would put marketing material.

It's certainly blocked at my workplace.

Re: Startups: Don't Host Your Blog on Tumblr

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Post by cosmez »

Legion wrote: post #37

So, in the last week or so of reading Hacker News, I've been told: * Don't blog on Google+ * Don't blog on Tumblr Before I start blogging, are there any others I should know about?

how about ignoring everyone and just start to blog?

it doesn't matter how you do it right now, just do it and worry about that later.

Re: Startups: Don't Host Your Blog on Tumblr

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Post by sabret00the »

phzbOx wrote: post #25
citricsquid wrote: post #2

A mistake people seem to make is assuming Tumblr is a blogging platform akin to Wordpress.com, it isn't, it's a different beast entirely. The majority of Tumblr is the "community" of ~teenagers sharing pictures and videos and posts, Tumblr revolves around the dashboard not individual blogs. Sure you can host your company blog there, but do tumblr care about the uptime of that vs. the uptime of their dashboard?

"A mistake people seem to make is assuming Tumblr is a blogging platform akin to Wordpress.com, it isn't, it's a different beast entirely." From their about page: "What is Tumblr? Millions of people sharing the things they do, find, love, think, or create." Even if you can do more than a simple blog with tumblr, at its base it is a blogging platform. It's perfect for a startup that is busy doing lots of other things.…

No, it's a micro-blogging platform. Traditional blog posts are something that have been shoehorned in to try and garner new audiences. Tumblr is never the right choice for an existing publication. That's why many fashion magazines have Tumblrs that run alongside their traditional blogs.
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