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Everything You Can’t Have

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Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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Post by lexapro »

pdimitar wrote: post #48

Rich people getting bored and unhappy is 200% on them and them only. I know of no less than 7 separate things I'd lose myself into -- all related to inventing stuff -- that I actually would be afraid if I'll be giving my wife enough attention. That's how active I would be if I didn't have to worry about a job and a salary. I know other people like myself as well, some more obsessed and downright hyperactive even. Peo…

>I know of no less than 7 separate things I'd lose myself into

Consider yourself lucky then. Privileged even. Money is not the only privilege there is.

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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Post by plastic3169 »

pdimitar wrote: post #60
plastic3169 wrote: post #54

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You are right it’s 100% on them to sort their life out. Like your 8 acquaintances I think most people are very unsuited for riches atleast until they adjust. Also almost all people think they themselves would be great managing that situation. It’s like imagining you will be great parent before you have kids. Or the famous quote, Everybody has a plan before they get punched in the mouth. Life change like that affects…

Getting a vacation when you have no job indeed sounds funny and meaningless, yes, but we also need a change of scenery every now and then, regardless of our level of wealth. It's a basic and universal human trait. And maybe I'll get tired of the tinkering I want to do now (but can't). I'd still like to find out if that's the case. There are creative pursuits that can take a lifetime however. Eventually you will find…

Here’s hoping we make it to the otherside and can reflect back to this with experience.

TBH I’m sure there are people who have no trouble with these things. It is just common to read experiences from rich and famous in which they say that it is actually quite tricky to live that life (sandwhiched between the obligatory platitudes about how lucky and priviledged they are)

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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Post by wincy »

lemongrasstea wrote: post #40
hef19898 wrote: post #23

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A resort is a vacation, travel is giong on a safari in African, trekking around the Khailash in Tibet, do a road trip through Uruguay. A resort doesn't give you experiences worth remembering, truely travelling and getting to know new cultures and regions does.

Depends. There is nothing intrinsically valuable in memories about sweating on an uncomfortable trip in Uruguay or a memory of being authentically harassed on the streets of Mumbai. (These are examples from my authentic trips). These fade away as everything else. Simple resort stay in Greece with my SO is embedded in my memory forever.

I guess maybe the people trashing on resorts just had a better upbringing than me. Lazing next to the gently lapping ocean in a salt water pool and chatting with my wife while my small children splash around happily in the 82°F weather while it was snowing at our home was so great we decided to stay an extra day. It’s certainly like no experience I’m accustomed to. If it gets boring we’ll do something else.

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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Post by subpixel »

zdragnar wrote: post #52
subpixel wrote: post #42

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It is on them, but they are legion. That matters, because they influence the direction of our society on many levels. It’s not inaccurate to say American culture is a product of a rich and unhappy worldview.

You need to define American culture, which is no trivial thing. It's like saying "European culture"- just vague generalizations that fit whatever lazy stereotype you prefer

Let’s not split hairs.

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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Post by pdimitar »

lexapro wrote: post #61
pdimitar wrote: post #48

Rich people getting bored and unhappy is 200% on them and them only. I know of no less than 7 separate things I'd lose myself into -- all related to inventing stuff -- that I actually would be afraid if I'll be giving my wife enough attention. That's how active I would be if I didn't have to worry about a job and a salary. I know other people like myself as well, some more obsessed and downright hyperactive even. Peo…

>I know of no less than 7 separate things I'd lose myself into Consider yourself lucky then. Privileged even. Money is not the only privilege there is.

In this case it's bittersweet, sadly. Can never muster the time or energy to devote myself to them because working for the man is way too tiring but also inescapable...

And yep I'm grateful that I have a curious nature.

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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Post by BizarreByte »

etothepii wrote: post #27
BizarreByte wrote: post #20

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Some of us don’t have to trick ourselves. I own a modest house and modest car, they fit into my budget and put me so far ahead of my peers financially people don’t believe me when I say how good things are. A car especially is just a tool, I care as much about someone’s car as I do the hammer in their toolbox, but I am not a car person. It comes down to what you value. Stability, time, and financial freedom matter mo…

The ultimate luxuries are time and freedom. I'm jealous of those with more of these but not those with a bigger house or car.

> The ultimate luxuries are time and freedom.

They definitely are, which is why I forego things that take them away from me. No children or dogs in my future.

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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Post by joffrywinslow »

borroka wrote: post #50

This is a misleading article that, with its mundane look at the world, tries to provide a "gotcha" that does not seem to exist except in the minds of someone who tries to find "gotchas" everywhere, as the author does. Do you want a new and better car? Actually, you don't want a Ferrari, you want dopamine. Do you feel attracted to someone younger, better looking, funnier, more interesting than your current partner? Th…

I think what you are describing is euphoria. Drugs like adderall can motivate people but the reward will be nothing without the endogenous release of opioids.

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

alexfromapex wrote: post #47
blfr wrote: post #28

I cannot relate to joy of struggle for owning things. Maybe the times have changed and often more expensive things just aren't better (although nicer things still are usually more expensive) but while I feel a lot of pleasure from wearing proper clothes, using well-made tech, and living in a stylishly designed apartment, looking for them is almost always a chore I happily outsource to bloggers, HN (thank you!), or my…

Yeah I think this is just another lie told by Capitalism to keep people satiated. Anyone who doesn't feel fulfillment with unlimited supplies of money just doesn't know themselves very well.

Where exactly is this lie told and exactly who told it?
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