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Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by Aunche »

wengo314 wrote: post #11
xeromal wrote: post #2

This specific comment is so annoying >Olohan said he reported the issue to Google’s human resources department the following week, but nothing ever came of the complaint. The HR rep “openly admitted … that if the complaint was ‘in reverse’ — a female accusing a white male of harassment — the complaint would certainly be escalated,” according to the lawsuit.

that is because HR exists to protect the company, not the employee. it would be a big media storm if that aforementioned reverse thing happened.

> that is because HR exists to protect the company, not the employee.

This honestly makes me think that a lot of the story is heavily exaggerated. Why would HR entertain a hypothetical that could only get them in trouble?

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by riffraff »

NeverFade wrote: post #36
kodah wrote: post #18

Probably worth noting this story was first published by the New York Post. Take that for what you will. That said, this is a pretty wild turn of events. From the initial and continued sexual harassment/assault to the racism, and subsequent retaliation. More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. I've heard this hinted at before, but never said out loud for obvious re…

> More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. Everyone in tech knows this is happening, and it's illegal, but nobody will do anything about it. Similar to ageism back in the 2000s.

> Similar to ageism back in the 2000s.

do you believe ageism "solved", or do you mean it's something people talk about openly these days? I thought it was discussed in the 00s too.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by ipaddr »

0xcafefood wrote: post #43
NeverFade wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. Everyone in tech knows this is happening, and it's illegal, but nobody will do anything about it. Similar to ageism back in the 2000s.

Had a manager at one job tell me explicitly that they gave an interview to a candidate but knew it wouldn't move forward to a hire since they wanted to hire a woman. I felt gross hearing and knowing that but it was said and not written so there was nothing I could do about it. And I probably would've gotten fired for raising an issue even if I did have that in writing.

By you sharing you have added some good to a bad situation.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by SilasX »

couchdb_ouchdb wrote: post #50
kodah wrote: post #18

Probably worth noting this story was first published by the New York Post. Take that for what you will. That said, this is a pretty wild turn of events. From the initial and continued sexual harassment/assault to the racism, and subsequent retaliation. More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. I've heard this hinted at before, but never said out loud for obvious re…

After 16 years at Google, i'm pretty sure he doesn't have to work another day in his life.

You'd think, but then you read stories like this, about people who have worked 16 years at Google but still need the job badly:

https://www.businessinsider.com/laid-off-engineer-says-googl...

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by amscanne »

neuronexmachina wrote: post #27
JenrHywy wrote: post #5

> When he asked why he was non-inclusive, Olohan was told that he had shown favouritism towards high-performing employees I always expected capitalism to eat itself, but not like this... not like this.

The full quote from Olohan's filing is kind of peculiar, I'm curious what the deal is with "walking pace": > In response to Olohan’s request during the call for specifics as to why Google believed he was not inclusive, Google’s Employee Investigations team explained that he had shown favoritism towards high performers, which it considered “non-inclusive,” and commented on employees’ walking pace and hustle, which it…

From the original NY Post article, he was "managing director of food, beverages, and restaurants" so presumably the staff in question were food service workers, where they have to move around the kitchens or other areas as part of their duties. (I'm not claiming that "walking pace" is actually related to performance. But that was my read of how it was at least tangentially relevant, similarly to how "typing speed" might be tangentially relevant to roles requiring the use of a computer.)

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by eh9 »

0xcafefood wrote: post #43
NeverFade wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. Everyone in tech knows this is happening, and it's illegal, but nobody will do anything about it. Similar to ageism back in the 2000s.

Had a manager at one job tell me explicitly that they gave an interview to a candidate but knew it wouldn't move forward to a hire since they wanted to hire a woman. I felt gross hearing and knowing that but it was said and not written so there was nothing I could do about it. And I probably would've gotten fired for raising an issue even if I did have that in writing.

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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by justinjlynn »

za3faran wrote: post #44
selcuka wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn't explain why this one wasn't escalated as it has become a media storm as well.

You can bet they didn't think it would.

A systematic and impartial third party review of Google's HR incident and report system's records and/or HR incident related communications records would likely indicate just how much they did, or did not, think it would be an issue.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by Godel_unicode »

bombolo wrote: post #31
siva7 wrote: post #7

Seems like no one believes him. Let's be honest: How often have you heard news about a woman molesting a man vs. a man molesting a woman?

I've played music in dive bars. I've certainly been groped and also kissed when in the middle of a crowd.

Yeah, concerts, dive bars, festivals, sporting events. Generally, although not exclusively, older women. They always seem so surprised when I’m not flattered…

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by TheDong »

NeverFade wrote: post #36
kodah wrote: post #18

Probably worth noting this story was first published by the New York Post. Take that for what you will. That said, this is a pretty wild turn of events. From the initial and continued sexual harassment/assault to the racism, and subsequent retaliation. More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. I've heard this hinted at before, but never said out loud for obvious re…

> More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. Everyone in tech knows this is happening, and it's illegal, but nobody will do anything about it. Similar to ageism back in the 2000s.

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