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What if AI didn't make you a bad writer, but a better thinker?
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Re: What if AI didn't make you a bad writer, but a better thinker?
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it make people less good at everything it touches like it did for basic maths we're utterly fucked.
What kind of basic math are we talking about here? Arithmetic? Calculus? Group theory? What makes those "basic maths" a good benchmark for whether we're fucked? Freeing up head space for more important things is valuable. Not having to maintain 7 digit numbers in your head lets you focus on the actual problem. Not having to worry so much about the phrasing in a document because anyone can ask a bot to rephrase it, in…
Also, was the slightly-below-average person actually good at basic mental arithmetic before? Or did they just work through simple problems agonisingly slowly or accept the answer the other person gave them even though it was wrong and left them shortchanged?
Re: What if AI didn't make you a bad writer, but a better thinker?
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it make people less good at everything it touches like it did for basic maths we're utterly fucked.
We don't all need to be good at everything. Your average human is absolute shit at hunting these days, and it straight up doesn't matter. Unless the apocalypse comes we'll be just fine, and at that point hunting will be more important than math again anyway.
> We don't all need to be good at everything.
You don't _need_ to be good at anything really, but we live in much better societies when people are good at things. The fact that we can live like mindless automats doesn't mean it's something we should strive for.
Re: What if AI didn't make you a bad writer, but a better thinker?
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you are providing sensitive business information/facts to a third party service that's likely going to use those for training, analysis, store it, etc. ? It should be fine for most places I guess - but I suspect a decent amount will have a problem with this. This is my main reservation about copilot as well (quality issues aside).
> So you are providing sensitive business information/facts to a third party service that's likely going to use those for training, analysis, store it, etc. ? Every business needs to make their own decision. Personally, I’m not worried about OpenAI using my data, but I understand others might be. That being said, I already give Amazon literally all my data about my business via AWS and Google gets a copy of all my do…
The difference is that GPT is training future versions based on the information you provide. It could potentially be returned to a future user.
AWS does no such thing.
Re: What if AI didn't make you a bad writer, but a better thinker?
#65AI will take a while to wash over the masses while Byung Chul Han sees no improvement from an aphorism assistant since he already thinks in aphorisms organically.
I've benefitted since I started using GPT in my own idiosyncratic process last summer since it identified and fixed my problem of writing sideways, i.e. breadth first.
I could get this from a good, old fashioned human education but my professor friends in the humanities have already resigned tenured positions.
I worry that similar to HR becoming human robots the long term impact is that we trade anthropomorphism for robotomorphism.
Re: What if AI didn't make you a bad writer, but a better thinker?
#66I'm hoping for a tool that cannot just correct my English style, but can also play the advocatus diaboli in a little speech bubble while I'm writing philosophy papers. It ought to constantly try to disprove me, though only on a per-paragraph basis and by making mild suggestions ("Could you give an example here?", "On the other hand,...", "What if...", "Isn't this what calls...?", "Isn't there a missing premise in thi…
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Re: What if AI didn't make you a bad writer, but a better thinker?
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seemed rather light on details to me, like do you upload a whole bunch of documents onto the site and then it builds a model based upon that that it uses to query?
No, the basic model already exists. You could throw together something like this yourself: encode your documents with a Transformers model into a series of vectors. Then you're merely a nearest neighbor search away from finding the most semantically relevant documents. Feed those documents to GPT-3 or some such LLM as contextual state, along with the query, et voila! you have Q&A on documentation.
Those are the essential steps, yes.
(Spoiler: I worked on this feature @ Slite) But in practice, the effectiveness of your pipeline will depend greatly upon exactly how you implement each piece.
Here are some of the things we've had to consider and develop, in order for the Q&A to be production worthy:
- at which level is it best to encode documents (sentence, paragraph, whole doc) and how can those tiered embeddings be weighed effectively?
- how to use the natural document hierarchy in the workspace?
- where to add NLI, so we can actually compare in-model "does this statement imply that statement" rather than just comparing vectors
- how to prioritize passages using additional fine-grained ranking against the question (cross-encoding, etc)?
- how to compute a "confidence" score so that we actually take the generative (GPT) part out of the equation and bail out early, if the documents do no contain anything which strongly implies an answer to your specific query
These are just a few of the pieces. But what we learned quickly is that solving the problem of building a great Q&A means first solving many problems that are deeply intertwined with search algorithms, natural language understanding, and other text problems in general.
Re: What if AI didn't make you a bad writer, but a better thinker?
#68I think AI can make people better thinkers for sure! Look at what AlphaZero did for Chess - it basically showed that humanistic ideas can still thrive at the highest levels of computer chess (think like intentionally hanging a piece, dynamic positional play, trapping opposition pieces, sacrifices that don't pay off for several turns, etc...) rather than brute forcing a position. I'm sure the top players all learned quite a lot about the game through watching AlphaZero, and I'm sure they've all implemented those lessons into their own games.
Re: What if AI didn't make you a bad writer, but a better thinker?
#69I'm hoping for a tool that cannot just correct my English style, but can also play the advocatus diaboli in a little speech bubble while I'm writing philosophy papers. It ought to constantly try to disprove me, though only on a per-paragraph basis and by making mild suggestions ("Could you give an example here?", "On the other hand,...", "What if...", "Isn't this what calls...?", "Isn't there a missing premise in thi…
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Doesn't look like it. Parent acknowledged the existence of tools like those, which only correct their english style. Note they said they were writing philosophy papers and wanted a tool that could be constantly trying to disprove them.
Re: What if AI didn't make you a bad writer, but a better thinker?
#70I'm increasingly frustrated by the amount of people willing to give up control of their own thought processing. At what point do you decide, I'm good enough and don't need to improve, I'll make the AI do it for me!