Truly, what compels a person to do such a thing? I too have struggled heavily with depression in the past, but I've never once felt the urge to repeatedly vandalize anyone's property. Like, I just don't understand what's to gain.
How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought this too. But you can feel incredibly powerless if all you do is “let the police handle it.” Even in this instance, nothing would have come of it had they not traced the guy. Prosecution of crime happens after a crime is committed. Cops can’t do much if you’re worried someone will harm you or a loved one. Even if stalking is illegal, cops won’t / can’t feasibly spend the resources investigating and punishin…
Yeah, but like... they didn't even "let the police handle it." They just went straight to "late-night stakeout." > Cops can’t do much if you’re worried someone will harm you or a loved one. You're right, and that would be a scary situation... if they didn't have more than enough evidence for the police to get involved. Repeated, late-night visits to leave threatening messages would be plenty for a restraining order i…
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#63Maybe obvious, but uh: don’t fucking do this! I get it, I'm an older brother, I would wanna go ballistic too. But the fact that these guys skipped over "notify the police" and went straight to "seek out in-person confrontation" is insane! Stalkers are not people in their right mind. Staking out and planning to “citizen’s arrest”(???) someone who has repeatedly visited late at night to threaten and harass is NOT SAFE…
> Norwich man leaves his victim with permanent facial scarring after glassing him in a nightclub row over his feet being on a seat. Ordered to pay £175 compensation with a suspended sentence edp24.co.uk/news/23243869.… via @Norfolkforever
https://twitter.com/edwest/status/1613814824013598720?s=46&t...
> Disqualified driver kills a cyclist while doing 80 in a 30mph zone, leaves him to die while he escapes, Despite ten prior convictions for 20 offences, gets less than 5 years (so will serve 2 and a half) Also banned from driving - for 5 just years
https://twitter.com/edwest/status/1616865052899909633?s=46&t...
> Last year at least 58 people were murdered by criminals let out early on probation. Many of those had been let out early for extremely violent offences express.co.uk/news/uk/172127… (*55 killers, at least one killed multiple people)
https://twitter.com/edwest/status/1614919057102209025?s=46&t...
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#64Truly, what compels a person to do such a thing? I too have struggled heavily with depression in the past, but I've never once felt the urge to repeatedly vandalize anyone's property. Like, I just don't understand what's to gain.
The killers were more sympathetic. I can understand killing your kidnapper and rapist to escape, even if it is technically unlawful killing, I cannot understand stalking people who want nothing to do with you for years.
At the end of the day, stalkers truly believe they are entitled to stalk and hurt their victims. They 100% believe they have the right to terrorize their "love" interests, for example. They think their victims deserve it. The incredulous sentiment from stalkers always seems to be "what would you do in this situation", as if the only logical solution they faced was stalking their victims.
When it comes to stalkers, it's a matter of entitlement and seriously fucked up beliefs.
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#65Maybe obvious, but uh: don’t fucking do this! I get it, I'm an older brother, I would wanna go ballistic too. But the fact that these guys skipped over "notify the police" and went straight to "seek out in-person confrontation" is insane! Stalkers are not people in their right mind. Staking out and planning to “citizen’s arrest”(???) someone who has repeatedly visited late at night to threaten and harass is NOT SAFE…
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#66Maybe obvious, but uh: don’t fucking do this! I get it, I'm an older brother, I would wanna go ballistic too. But the fact that these guys skipped over "notify the police" and went straight to "seek out in-person confrontation" is insane! Stalkers are not people in their right mind. Staking out and planning to “citizen’s arrest”(???) someone who has repeatedly visited late at night to threaten and harass is NOT SAFE…
That's not to say that a citizen's arrest is a good idea, mind you. Just that getting the authorities involved may not be effective.
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#67How is that a thing? Does anyone know more?
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#68Maybe obvious, but uh: don’t fucking do this! I get it, I'm an older brother, I would wanna go ballistic too. But the fact that these guys skipped over "notify the police" and went straight to "seek out in-person confrontation" is insane! Stalkers are not people in their right mind. Staking out and planning to “citizen’s arrest”(???) someone who has repeatedly visited late at night to threaten and harass is NOT SAFE…
I thought this too. But you can feel incredibly powerless if all you do is “let the police handle it.” Even in this instance, nothing would have come of it had they not traced the guy. Prosecution of crime happens after a crime is committed. Cops can’t do much if you’re worried someone will harm you or a loved one. Even if stalking is illegal, cops won’t / can’t feasibly spend the resources investigating and punishin…
Beyond that, move somewhere with a strong castle doctrine, where you can own a firearm.
This isn't a new problem for societies and there are good solutions, which have been eroded over time. If you can't shoot intruders in your house without consequence, you are living in a failing state. If the police can't be relied upon to keep repeat offenders away from you and your property, you are living in a failing state.
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#69Truly, what compels a person to do such a thing? I too have struggled heavily with depression in the past, but I've never once felt the urge to repeatedly vandalize anyone's property. Like, I just don't understand what's to gain.
There's no reason to believe the guy's story at all. It could be real (from their POV), or it could be someone making up something they know is unlikely to be called out by the "good guys".
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#70Truly, what compels a person to do such a thing? I too have struggled heavily with depression in the past, but I've never once felt the urge to repeatedly vandalize anyone's property. Like, I just don't understand what's to gain.
One important myth is, "He can't control himself". E.g., he's not good at managing anger, so he needs classes. But it turns out a lot of abusive people are perfectly good at managing their anger except when the target is, say, a vulnerable woman. A person who is equally shitty to their boss and their coworkers? Mental illness could be an explanation. But one who's terrible only to the intern? That's just an abuser.