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Prisma laying off 28% staff

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Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's the hardest decision I've had to make" "We will work harder"

"Mistakes were made" "Challenges were encountered" "Building a Stronger Company"

"Amazing/incredible talent"

"Amazing/incredible journey"

"No way reflect"

"Local laws"

Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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post #34

So I read their website and to my understanding, they make a DB interface layer, and have 100+ staff? How is this not a company of like 10 people.

Obviously they have a bigger vision for the tool and needed people to make it happen In all honesty, 100 people is not a big number, you need people like accountants, lawyers, office staff and so on

> In all honesty, 100 people is not a big number, you need people like accountants, lawyers, office staff and so on

I expect the bulk of those positions to be people trying to get someone else to buy the products/services they're selling.

In the end, it might really be just 10 guys doing the actual coding.

Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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post #51

> “those affected have already been notified via personal and work email” Even for remote staff, there are many more human ways of informing someone they are out of a job than shooting an email. Am I the only one who feels that way? Is it actually better to get an email an process the blow in async? Genuinely curious as I didn’t see this comment yet.

I'd prefer an email. I'd want to think about it, try and calm down etc before talking to anyone at work about it. There is no value in my manager or HR getting my hot take (or just watching me get upset) by firing me one-on-one, and firing in a webinar-style zoom call seems even more impersonal (remember that guy). So yeah, email seems a good way, or the least shitty imo.

Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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post #51

> “those affected have already been notified via personal and work email” Even for remote staff, there are many more human ways of informing someone they are out of a job than shooting an email. Am I the only one who feels that way? Is it actually better to get an email an process the blow in async? Genuinely curious as I didn’t see this comment yet.

I don't think there are good ways to inform people they are laid off. Personally, I prefer to receive an email than being told in person. At least I can keep my emotions for myself. The best thing that the company can do is to give a good severance package.

Right. Hitting someone with that out of nowhere and the inevitable "I have two sentences to save my job" response is awful. I would never want to be terminated in person.

Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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post #6

It gets to the point where it's hard to even know what to say about the nth tech layoff announcement. It's a good reminder, if we needed one, of how fragile the good times are, for anyone who is an ordinary professional working in an economy like this. I wish there were something more concrete we could do to support each other - like something more concrete than "sure I would recommend people from my network for jobs…

> I wish there were something more concrete we could do to support each other

Unionisation would help. We don't do ourselves any favours by not unionising.

Almost all job security and employment rights were won by unions and strike action. No wonder unions are a dirty word—according to corporate America.

Even when the jobs can't be saved, employment rights are helpful. The Google? Microsoft? announcement basically said, we've already fired some of the American staff, but in other countries were are merely starting the statutory consultation process. That means a longer period of pay.

Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

-- linkedin: "Søren Bramer Schmidt CEO - We're hiring! Join us @Prisma" - "take full responsibility PS, We're hiring!!!!" --

It's not at all uncommon in restructuring to be both (doing a lot of) hiring & firing - the current filled roles are out of whack with where you want to be, and not things you can transition people between because the skills/qualifications are different or whatever. E.g. if Microsoft decided to sunset its incredible GitHub journey, it would probably find itself with too many web developers. If it got out of Xboxes, t…

Of course developers can be transitioned to do other types of development.

Occam's Razor says: or the companies just want to rehire new people at lower pay.

Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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post #21

"I take full responsibility" is the new "our incredible journey" of failing tech company cliches.

How is this responsibility defined? How is this responsibility measured? What aspects of the ex-Prisma people does this responsibility cover? What measurable and practical effects does this responsibility have when measured in one week, one month, three months, one year from now? If these targets are not met, what are the consequences of that? What are the means of enforcing that responsibility? I seriously think we…

You mean something like OKRs+KPIs, sales quotas, revenue targets, budgets…

Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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post #21

"I take full responsibility" is the new "our incredible journey" of failing tech company cliches.

"I take full responsibility" is always referred to the investors and shareholders. aka "I admit I have done a bad decision when I over hired and I'm correcting it". It's not a "I take full responsibility" towards the employees or customers.

Can you even take responsibility for something if you don’t face any consequences yourself?

Like a surgeon killing a patient “taking full responsibility”…

Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff

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post #53

Is the word “impact” the latest way of saying “fired” without saying it? We are seeing that particular word in nearly every note regarding these types of action. Why this word and why is everyone using it? It’s not only CEOs and HR but on LinkedIn I see many people referring to themselves as “impacted” and open to word, etc. Is there a word for this type of memetic term suddenly being used everywhere as a substitute…

One of the most insidious of such words for mass firing is "efficiencies".

Enterprises adopted the euphemism then forgot there are any other cost or overhead reducing approaches to improve efficiency other than "efficiencies".

Managerialism is value-generation destroying.

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