Pretty sure this is meant as a joke, but dating has become so twisted now that I'm not actually 100% sure. Which makes this perfect satire.
Poe's law: any sufficiently advanced parody is indistinguishable from sincerity
Salesforce, but for Dating
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Re: Salesforce, but for Dating
#62That "force" in the name implies that it is a tool for a group of persons working together on all those dates?
Sure. That's way better than the alternative.
Re: Salesforce, but for Dating
#63Might be a good opportunity here to integrate events, restaurant bookings, and other paid "experiences" for some upside. Does this integrate directly with the dating services/apps themselves? Seems like a lot of work to plumb in and keep up-to-date the status and latest information on each profile. Also, if this is a legit service you should be extremely careful how you store all this data. Exposing a bunch of dating…
When I was dating, I kept track of all this manually, in a notes app. I wouldn't mind inputting the same data here, manually, since this has the added benefit of organizing it for me in a way I couldn't do with mere notes.
Re: Salesforce, but for Dating
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't you have a pipeline with girls you're going to cold-call, and a dating life manager that breathes down your neck when you haven't taken at least 10 girls out this month?
I don't date girls. I only date women.
Well, if you're actually a male dog, you would mean you only date...
Re: Salesforce, but for Dating
#65Can someone chime in why this hasn't worked in the past? It seems a personal/portable CRM could be highly useful. The second aspect is the vertical aspect (professional or "personal") One thing I keep hearing from people that have sold companies, exited etc. is that they are having a hard time operating within their networks without the CRM.
Yes. Having been in this space for a bit, there are a few reasons why it hasn't worked (yet):
1. The problem of deduplicating contacts is tough (but solvable). If you don't solve it well, then the utility of personal CRM goes wayyyyy down and you're getting notifications about the same people with different email / WhatsApp / Instagram addresses and that gets annoying.
2. People haven't shown a big willingness to pay very much for this (so far), despite everyone saying they want it. So we're left with the open source solutions that don't solve the problems very well.
3. People are SUPER concerned about privacy. See a comment above about someone who wants the system to automatically scan email, etc. and extract contacts, but that it must be 100% local and privacy-centric. You can't have both of those - to intelligently extract contacts without duplicates (and figure out that @mybestie on Instagram == mybestie@gmail.com == my.c.bestie@corporate.com) you need a big database of who's who to match against.
Everything is solvable I think - we're not talking cold fusion here. But it's tougher than it might seem on the surface.
Re: Salesforce, but for Dating
#66I was thinking about something similar, but less cringy. More like: hey you haven't messaged your friend in 6 months, maybe you should ask them how they are doing. A priority queue but to help keep friendships alive.
There have been several iterations of this sort of idea — a personal CRM — and the main issue I have is they should automatically scan my emails, texts and chats to figure out my friends and suggest that I reach out. Also, want it to be 100% local and privacy first.
> should automatically scan my emails, texts and chats
Great, easy to integrate one service with the APIs of a bunch of others!
> Also, want it to be 100% local and privacy first.
...but in combination? Never going to happen.
Ask yourself: who's signing up for the API keys to enable the client-side service to talk to all these services? Is it the end-user, or is it this software's developer?
If it's the software's developer, then they're effectively leaking all these API keys by embedding them into the software itself — where not just the end users, but anyone else could come along and reuse these keys for anything they like. The service providers will find this out, and block these keys. (No, you can't avoid this by proxying requests to some gateway, operated by the service-provider, that holds the API keys. Then you lose the "local/private" aspect.)
If it's each end-user, then the aggregate traffic from all the instances of this app running at once, will look exactly like a bot that's trying to evade API rate-limits using a "residential proxy cluster" like https://www.zyte.com/smart-proxy-manager/... and so the services will block these keys.
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Mind you, in theory, you could do this on the OS level, using OS accessibility APIs to effectively "read" the messages off the screen. But 1. is there any third-party ISV — who isn't a certified accessibility-software provider — who you'd trust enough to allow their software the ability to constantly "read" everything on your screen? That includes your passwords, you know! And also, 2., the messages need to be on the screen for accessibility software to read them. An accessibility-API-driven CRM can't load your chat history unless you also grant it the ability to literally take your mouse and scroll through it for you.
Or, alternately, coming at this from the perspective of the Operating System vendor themselves, you could do this "in" the OS, by forcing emails/text/chat message handling to go through system APIs that can see these as special document types, and so do things with them. IIRC there was at least one pre-iPhone mobile OS that did this (BlackBerry OS, maybe?), enabling all of these types of messaging-app traffic to be muxed together into a single first-party app that did indeed manage all conversations with your contacts in a multi-channel way.
Re: Salesforce, but for Dating
#67Pretty sure this is meant as a joke, but dating has become so twisted now that I'm not actually 100% sure. Which makes this perfect satire.
HBO's Silicon Valley was ok, but didn't go nearly far enough on the absurdity.
I promise you this is real.
Re: Salesforce, but for Dating
#68Can someone chime in why this hasn't worked in the past? It seems a personal/portable CRM could be highly useful. The second aspect is the vertical aspect (professional or "personal") One thing I keep hearing from people that have sold companies, exited etc. is that they are having a hard time operating within their networks without the CRM.
No experience, but there is https://github.com/monicahq/monica
Re: Salesforce, but for Dating
#69I was thinking about something similar, but less cringy. More like: hey you haven't messaged your friend in 6 months, maybe you should ask them how they are doing. A priority queue but to help keep friendships alive.
This combined with the only useful feature FB had for years (people's birthday).
Integrate a scraping and keyword search for public facing social media postings to alert to people in distress, perhaps. Or just a general "you should check on X" feature. Not with automated messaging, that's too much.
Re: Salesforce, but for Dating
#70I was thinking about something similar, but less cringy. More like: hey you haven't messaged your friend in 6 months, maybe you should ask them how they are doing. A priority queue but to help keep friendships alive.
Not 100% what you describe, but functionally the same: https://github.com/monicahq/monica
Monica is an excellent "Personal CRM" as people are describing. It strives to achieve exactly the goals GP describes.
Personally, I would just like to see a contacts app that doesn't suck, and actually supports having both "companies" AND "people" as contact without treating them exactly the same. If I want to call some hotel or something, why does it have to be "First name: Holiday Inn" in order to even show up correctly...