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Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by omnicognate »

kjfarm wrote: post #48
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #4

As a recent convert to Bitwarden from LastPass, I start to get a bit nervous when I see acquisitions happening. LastPass getting acquired was the beginning of the end for it, IMO, before stagnating into criminal negligence. Granted this is Bitwarden acquiring rather than being acquired, but I still worry it leads to a trend of building "portfolio value" rather than focusing on the product. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

A good note for bitwarden is that it has a self hosting open source version, vaultwarden that is easy to switch to: https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden I see this as downside protection, as I can quickly migrate if I disagree with bitwarden's direction with minimal changes to my clients. I do worry about VC pressure on Bitwarden for hypergrowth. However in my personal opinion, the benefits outweigh the cons (f…

Vaultwarden's great. I use it. I use the Bitwarden Android client, though. Not sure what there is to replace that.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

#62

Post by sodality2 »

penciltwirler wrote: post #49

One can easily self host a bitwarden server on digitalocean. https://bitwarden.com/blog/digitalocean-marketplace/ However, I'm curious what y'all think about the cost. A digitalocean droplet for the recommended specs (4 GiB memory) is $24/month. This is hard to stomach when you compare with Bitwarden Premium which is <$1/month. I guess it depends on how much you value your own data.

Highly recommend using Vaultwarden, API compatible OSS server. It even provides premium features like TOTP for saved sites. I could host it on a small $12/yr VPS but currently host it on a home server. Minimum specs are very low for it as it’s written in Rust.

DO inflates prices for their systems, sometimes I guess it’s worth it but you can get a great dedi with FAR better performance from Hetzner auctions for $32/mo. 64GB RAM, proper CPU, large HDD, could probably host a thousand Vaultwarden instances. Definitely don’t use that for just Vaultwarden, it’s just an example, but yeah.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by wallmountedtv »

penciltwirler wrote: post #49

One can easily self host a bitwarden server on digitalocean. https://bitwarden.com/blog/digitalocean-marketplace/ However, I'm curious what y'all think about the cost. A digitalocean droplet for the recommended specs (4 GiB memory) is $24/month. This is hard to stomach when you compare with Bitwarden Premium which is <$1/month. I guess it depends on how much you value your own data.

You can use vaultwarden, which is a re-implementation in Rust that is much more lightweight than the official .NET version.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by agrippanux »

mfer wrote: post #43
zucked wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm happy for the one dev who's been lone rangering as I hope it means he's finally getting paid, but the pressure is going to be on to get an ROI.

If he was not being paid before it means he had not built a sustainable business. That means changes will need to come in the future to do that. If he had a sustainable business and took the VC funding it means he has grander ambitions. That will mean change as well. No matter how you look at it there will be change coming. Fueled by people who want a return on their investment.

Doesn’t necessarily mean change will come to the current offering; acquisitions can happen because new or enhancing existing product lines (like enterprise) are in the future.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by fullstop »

penciltwirler wrote: post #49

One can easily self host a bitwarden server on digitalocean. https://bitwarden.com/blog/digitalocean-marketplace/ However, I'm curious what y'all think about the cost. A digitalocean droplet for the recommended specs (4 GiB memory) is $24/month. This is hard to stomach when you compare with Bitwarden Premium which is <$1/month. I guess it depends on how much you value your own data.

Vaultwarden can run on their $5 droplet.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by rqtwteye »

penciltwirler wrote: post #49

One can easily self host a bitwarden server on digitalocean. https://bitwarden.com/blog/digitalocean-marketplace/ However, I'm curious what y'all think about the cost. A digitalocean droplet for the recommended specs (4 GiB memory) is $24/month. This is hard to stomach when you compare with Bitwarden Premium which is <$1/month. I guess it depends on how much you value your own data.

If you self host, why would you need such specs? You would access your server a few times a day at best. Otherwise it just sits there.

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

#67

Post by radlad »

omnicognate wrote: post #61
kjfarm wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good note for bitwarden is that it has a self hosting open source version, vaultwarden that is easy to switch to: https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden I see this as downside protection, as I can quickly migrate if I disagree with bitwarden's direction with minimal changes to my clients. I do worry about VC pressure on Bitwarden for hypergrowth. However in my personal opinion, the benefits outweigh the cons (f…

Vaultwarden's great. I use it. I use the Bitwarden Android client, though. Not sure what there is to replace that.

It's open source and can be forked if necessary: https://github.com/bitwarden/mobile

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by obblekk »

I really dislike the idea of giving complete access to my digital life to any company, particularly one that needs to grow quickly.

The tech for password vaults is so simple, I use keepass + icloud syncing and get free end-to-end encrypted password syncing, without sharing any data with anyone.

Outlined in more detail here: https://magoop.substack.com/p/how-to-manage-500-passwords-se...

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by recuter »

penciltwirler wrote: post #49

One can easily self host a bitwarden server on digitalocean. https://bitwarden.com/blog/digitalocean-marketplace/ However, I'm curious what y'all think about the cost. A digitalocean droplet for the recommended specs (4 GiB memory) is $24/month. This is hard to stomach when you compare with Bitwarden Premium which is <$1/month. I guess it depends on how much you value your own data.

Why does it need to run 24/7?

Re: Bitwarden Acquires Passwordless.dev

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Post by d1lanka »

obblekk wrote: post #68

I really dislike the idea of giving complete access to my digital life to any company, particularly one that needs to grow quickly. The tech for password vaults is so simple, I use keepass + icloud syncing and get free end-to-end encrypted password syncing, without sharing any data with anyone. Outlined in more detail here: https://magoop.substack.com/p/how-to-manage-500-passwords-se...

Same here.

KeepassXC to be specific: https://keepassxc.org/

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